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Mainline_Novelty vs stubborn_d0nkey : WITH KIBITZERS!!


  • 14 months ago · Quote · #41

    ChristianSoldier007

    Jet's and I's first forum game was Bc4 Qh4... Here is the game

    http://www.chess.com/forum/view/fun-with-chess/jet-vs-christiansoldier007-with-kibitzers

    I also made a forum with post game analysis, but it wasnt in editor, so most of you probably dont have time to see all that was going on

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #42

    Mainline_Novelty

    Sorry guys! Kinda forgot about this for a bit...anyways : 3.Bc4!

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #43

    IncrediBill

    Black should respond with 3...Qh4+.  I know it means bringing out the Queen early, but you will eliminate White's ability to castle, and you will be able to start to destroy the King side of the board.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #44

    hessmaster

    Nf6.if you try playing around with that queen too early all that will happen is it gets kicked around until you waste like a billion tempos. just look at the Immortal game...

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #45

    bresando

    As i already said 3...Qh4+ is a decent but time-consuming defense. White has considerable compensation for the pawn after that. Objectively both 3...Nc6 and 3...Nf6 are more worring for white.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #46

    stubborn_d0nkey

    I was thinking either Nf6 or Qh4+, and I came to the conclusion that I haven't come to a conclusion yet (I thought I had), well, I should reply soon (after I toss a few coins :P) 

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #47

    stubborn_d0nkey

     
    3... Qh4+!! :P
     
  • 13 months ago · Quote · #48

    Daeru

    4.Kf1 is pretty much forced.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #49

    bresando

    Yes, only move.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #50

    Mainline_Novelty

    Just gonna go ahead and play 4.Kf1 now because it;s forced.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #51

    IncrediBill

    I'm glad @stubborn_d0nkey choose to play 3...Qh4+.  I know that it puts his Queen out in the open, and that he will eventually have to lose a tempo by moving it away.  But I look at it as a kind of reverse gambit.  White sacrificed a pawn to gain some position, whereas Black sacrifices a tempo in order to take away White's castling option and hemming in the rook.

    Is it good or bad ?  I don't know . . . but we're going to have a lot of fun finding out.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #52

    IncrediBill

    Since I was one of the proponents of the 3...Qh4+ move, I guess I better step up and give @stubborn_d0nkey some options.

    One is to play 4...Nc6 and just develop another piece. 

    Another would be to play 4...d6 and open up the lines for the c8-Bishop.  I figure if White plays 5.Nf3, Black could then respond with 5...Bg4 and pin it down against his Queen.

    Between the two, 4...Nc6 is the simplest and most direct, whereas, 4...d6 could lead to some pretty crazy lines . . . and I think it might even eliminate the lost tempo issue with the Black Queen.

    Unless someone else has other suggestions, I think Black should play 4...d6.  Only because it is the more aggressive of the two, and that is what type of game the Kings Gambit is.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #53

    shepi13

    You can also play a gambit with b5 - forget what it's called though.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #54

    stubborn_d0nkey

    If you think d6 seems crazy, how about 4...d5 which I am contemplating?

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #55

    bresando

    I think 4...d5 also has some theory attacked.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #56

    ChristianSoldier007

    i dont even see what d5 does

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #57

    bresando

    Archieving an important freeing move with tempo and opening the position while white can't castle (for the price of a pawn) sounds like an idea worth considering, right ;)? 

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #58

    ChristianSoldier007

    yeah i did hear that often times in gambits giving back the pawn in exchange for positional compensation is common

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #59

    IncrediBill

    I don't see any strategic advantage to 4...d5. As far as I can see you would only lose your pawn.  At least 2...b5 moves White's Bishop up one Rank (3.Bxb5) where the Queen can fork it on a future move.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #60

    nate23

    I like g5


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