New line in the two Knights defense?

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1st May 2008, 10:43pm
#1
by pvmike
Voorhees, NJ United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
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An interesting opening in a game that I lost to a stronger opponent. Line we play says it gives a winning advantage to white, but I may have found a move that equalizes for black.  I'm black


1st May 2008, 11:12pm
#2
by vijaykulkarni
Pune India
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 895
I could not see black equalising at any stage Sorry to disagree with you However a good try indeed!
1st May 2008, 11:19pm
#3
by pvmike
Voorhees, NJ United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 513
Before 19..Re8 I'm quite certain the game was at least equal if not to my advantage
1st May 2008, 11:23pm
#4
by silentfilmstar13
Medford, OR United States
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Member Points: 2079
I have to agree with vijay.  I think White holds the advantage throughout the game.
1st May 2008, 11:31pm
#5
by camaguey
atlanta Cuba
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 6
I agree with pvmike, Re8 was the turning point
1st May 2008, 11:33pm
#6
by pvmike
Voorhees, NJ United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 513
After 13...Kxg7 white is down a pawn with little compensation, Could you guy's give some reasoning behind why white has the advantage.
1st May 2008, 11:47pm
#7
by TonightOnly
Phoenix, AZ United States
Member Since: Jun 2007
Member Points: 1215

This is not a new line. This is the Giuoco Piano transposed to the Max Lange Attack of the Two Knights Defense. 8.Re1+ is more popular, but 8.fxg7 is also played. 8.Re1+ makes things more complicated, although I think chances are fairly equal with correct play. 8.fxg7 gives black an easy game after 9...Be7. 9...f6 is obviously where black went wrong. Your book says advantage to white after 11.Bh6, and I agree. Where did you think you had equalized?

 

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1st May 2008, 11:51pm
#8
by pvmike
Voorhees, NJ United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 513
The new move I was talking about was 11...Bb4, up to that point all the moves are in my opening book. Which does say 9...f6 is a mistake, but I think 11....Bb4 equalizes.
2nd May 2008, 12:09am
#9
by TonightOnly
Phoenix, AZ United States
Member Since: Jun 2007
Member Points: 1215
Yes, your game seemed to improve after this move, but I think that is only because 12.Nbd2 is a poor move. 12.c3 seems to work out fine for white, although there is less chance for the advantage. I think 12.Re4 is the best move, and after this white is still doing quite well.
2nd May 2008, 12:14am
#10
by pvmike
Voorhees, NJ United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 513
I'm looking at the line with 12.Re4 right now it does seems like white holds his advantage.
2nd May 2008, 01:00am
#11
by BaronDerKilt
East of Omaha United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
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PVMIKE , since you feel 19...Re8 a mistake, just wondering what you see as the correct move there instead? It looks to me like WT has threats vs b7. And that for his next move some ideas: Ne6 being okay. But I'd prefer Rb3 or Qf3 as my serious candidates. So perhaps 19...Qd5 instead? Or the less active but somewhat prophylactic 19...Kh8 maybe to eliminate the N-fork SQ and hide the King from some potential checks?
2nd May 2008, 01:42am
#12
by pvmike
Voorhees, NJ United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 513
19.Qd5 or 19.b6 are the moves I suggested in my original post. I think 19.Qd5 is best.
 

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