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Over-extended pawn center


  • 9 months ago · Quote · #1

    coneheadzombie

    My analysis of the grandmaster game.

  • 9 months ago · Quote · #2

    coneheadzombie

    wow i go through all that trouble and no one cares =(

  • 9 months ago · Quote · #3

    Irontiger

    In your 6.dxe5 line, you indicate Black has equalized after a couple of obvious moves, but actually, he is much better : White has weaknesses all over the place, particularly the d file, and is slightly behind in development.

    11.gxf3 : even if at the end Black wins (without proper checking, it seems it's the case), it would deserve that you post the analysis of 11.Bxf3 Nxc4 12.Qa4 (hitting c6).

    Your comment on move 12...Rd8 is unclear to me : after 12...0-0-0 13.c5 Nxd5 14.Nxd5 Qxd5 15.Bf3 Qd7 Black has three attackors on d5 (the queen, rook and e6 pawn) and I can't see how White can match up to push d5. Remember the c4 pawn has gone to c5.

  • 9 months ago · Quote · #4

    coneheadzombie

    Seems like someone overlooked Bg4. ...exd5 is not possible if Black castles. Here, i updated my analysis.

  • 9 months ago · Quote · #5

    coneheadzombie

    the pin is mightier than the sword (and less obvious). Yes, you are right about black being better.

  • 9 months ago · Quote · #6

    coneheadzombie

    about hitting c6, here it is. Black is up a piece.

  • 9 months ago · Quote · #7

    coneheadzombie

    looks like irontiger ran away. have a good day!

  • 9 months ago · Quote · #8

    Timmy62

    Hello, I was looking at that line after 11.Bxf3 Nxc4 12.Qa5 Nxd3 12.Bxc6 bxc6 13.Qxc6+ Ke7. Did you not stop the line to soon?

    What if white plays 14.Qc5+ now Ke8 is just a repetion of moves, and if Kd7 Qb5+ Kc8 Qa6+, and we repeat again. If c6 Qb7+ Ke8 Qxc6+ etc.. Just looks like a draw.

  • 9 months ago · Quote · #10

    Timmy62

    pfren wrote:

    11.Bxf3 Nxc4 12.Bf2! is IMO more principled than taking with the pawn. Black has to defend carefully to equalize.

    11.Bxf3 Nxc4 12.Qa4 Nxe3 13.Bxc6 bc6 14.Qxc6+ Ke7 15.Qc5+ Kd7 16.Qb5+ c6! 17.Qb7+ Qc7 18.Qxa8 g6 definitely isn't something I would like to play as white. The only way to save the endangered queen is 19.Ke2 Bg7 20.Nb5, but after 20...cb5 21.Qe4 Nd5 Black has a huge positional advantage.

    Yes I was looking at that. I thought white had something after 18...g6 19.Ne4, but yea Bb4+ doesnt look too good for white;) Tnx:)


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