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Queen for rook-knight


  • 5 years ago · Quote · #1

    mhbat14

    Wrong forum the first time lets get this right this time. 

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    This is  the game I played against a chess program on my computer earlier.   I thought I was doing really well until this point where things started going down hill. The thing that really stood out is the queen for rook bishop trade was it wrong.  I couldn't find anything good moves from here so i saved the game and decided to see if I could find any decent moves from here but after 2 hours I gave up looking.  After that I decided to see if any one here could help me find where I went wrong or what I could have done from here?  If I do think of a move that leads to something I'll let you know how it goes.   Any insights could really help me improve alot, so, thanks in advance for the help and insights.

     


  • 5 years ago · Quote · #2

    Loomis

    To answer your question, a queen is generally worth more than a rook and minor piece.

     

    I also noticed that in your game you make a note after 12. Rad1 that says white is threatening to play e5. But notice that white's e-pawn is pinned because of BxQ.

     

    The move 13. ... e5 weakens f6 and e6. Your opponent takes advantage of this immediately by attacking the knight on f6 with bishop and knight and the pawn on e6 with rooks. You could have spared your f6 knight by moving it, but the pawn on e6 is permanently weak. The pawn on e6 is called a backwards pawn because it is behind its neighbors.


  • 5 years ago · Quote · #3

    mhbat14

    Loomis wrote:

    To answer your question, a queen is generally worth more than a rook and minor piece.

     

    I also noticed that in your game you make a note after 12. Rad1 that says white is threatening to play e5. But notice that white's e-pawn is pinned because of BxQ.

     

    The move 13. ... e5 weakens f6 and e6. Your opponent takes advantage of this immediately by attacking the knight on f6 with bishop and knight and the pawn on e6 with rooks. You could have spared your f6 knight by moving it, but the pawn on e6 is permanently weak. The pawn on e6 is called a backwards pawn because it is behind its neighbors.


     Thanks for the advice.  I can't believe I missed that when I looked like move 12 wow thats depresur sing.  So your saying 13...e5 was the slip that lead to the horrible position I worked myself into and I couldn't find a way to recover from. Thanks its good to know I'll have to be more careful when I
    move piece and check where I'm weaking and make sure I'm not creating any weakness the opponent can exploit.


  • 5 years ago · Quote · #5

    HotFlow

    My opinions.

    Castling at 7 was good.

    8. Bb3, I see quite moves like this alot from comps also, I guess the comp has the picture in mind. Bb3 nice square for a bishop. Also I think it stops your C6 Knight from going to. e5 with tempo (forcing him to move/defend his bishop) allowing you to jump into the g4 square as a outpost or looking to trade of his black bishop, which would weaken his powerful central knight. Would be nice to get a experts opinion on such moves though.  Just to confirm if I'm thinking along the right lines.

    9.bd7, I personally didn't like this move, his pawns dominate your remaining knight and this bishop movement restricts your knights movement further more, meaning your black bishop (on the powerful long diagonal) will be stuck behind your knight for some time won't have any influence on the game what so ever.

    11. Nxc6  I like this move of his with your kingside minor pieces tied down he launches an attack on your queenside. 

    My personal opinion of your overall game is, if you like to fianchetto the bishop, for king safety.  You should be looking to open up the diagonal for that bishop rather then restricting it.  A bishop on the long diagonal is a powerful piece. Your e5 pawn move kept your bishop quite for the large portion of the game.

    I think with these small disadvantages in the opening, forced you into playing risky tactics later on.



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