Queen sac Knights choking the defense

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28th December 2008, 03:05pm
#1
by quny
virginia United States
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one of my best attacking games. Take all analysis

28th December 2008, 03:13pm
#2
by HotRocks111
United States
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Thanks!

28th December 2008, 03:26pm
#3
by dragondorf
TORONTO Canada
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nice one

28th December 2008, 03:36pm
#4
by dragondorf
TORONTO Canada
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but is spelled with one "t" not 2

28th December 2008, 04:02pm
#5
by gnug
CA United States
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if black had captured the Q with the pawn you would've been done for

28th December 2008, 04:10pm
#6
by quny
virginia United States
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it would had been an interesting game a Q for 2 knights double rooks and hanging the d pawn.

28th December 2008, 04:21pm
#7
by donngerard
Cebu Philippines
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what if dxe4 , youll just be losing your queen !!!

28th December 2008, 04:36pm
#8
by quny
virginia United States
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 144

black's 8th rank is very weak  rooks are not connected and one is being used for defending look at my knights  very mencing the position

28th December 2008, 04:38pm
#9
by madpawn
London England
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Black turned a good start into a farce! The outcome was good, but was it really a sound queen sac? Black could have captured: 35..dxe4 or... Bxf5 among others.

Were you lucky?

28th December 2008, 04:51pm
#10
by RedSoxFan3
Worcester, MA United States
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You're biggest mistake was being a Yankees Fan. You got lucky.

Hope to see your big signings suck this year. Stealing Texiera, Sabbathia. What a joke.

29th December 2008, 07:24pm
#11
by quny
virginia United States
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 144
RedSoxFan3 wrote:

You're biggest mistake was being a Yankees Fan. You got lucky.

Hope to see your big signings suck this year. Stealing Texiera, Sabbathia. What a joke.


i thought this was a good sac i had to bring out my chess board and go over the moves. To me it seems black has no defense to slow the attack look at blacks' 8th rank

29th December 2008, 07:32pm
#12
by moaz
Bangladesh
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WOW!! Nice playing dude,i wish i could play like that.

29th December 2008, 07:41pm
#13
by quny
virginia United States
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Member Points: 144

thank u i sac a queen for better position. the queen sac was a tempo move for my rook on the a file threating check with the rook on the f-file

29th December 2008, 07:59pm
#14
by emceenugget
United States
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Member Points: 56

Very nice.  I can never vision smothered attacks.

29th December 2008, 11:02pm
#15
by bobbereight
Madison, WI United States
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Nice work!

But after 23...dxe4 24. Rxf6, I think that black has a plethora of options, such as sacrificing the exchange, playing 24... Kh7, or sliding the bishop to either b7 or d7 to allow the R on a8 to get into the defense of the eighth rank. These are all much better than the immediate mating net.

I didn't calculate them all out, but I feel that black should weather the attack. That being said, I'm just a class C player, so what do I know Wink

30th December 2008, 01:47am
#16
by RedSoxFan3
Worcester, MA United States
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1. Re7 Nxe7 2. Qxe7

Black would be up queen to rook/knight and white would not longer have any mating threats.

30th December 2008, 04:16pm
#17
by erikido23
United States
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quny wrote:
RedSoxFan3 wrote:

You're biggest mistake was being a Yankees Fan. You got lucky.

Hope to see your big signings suck this year. Stealing Texiera, Sabbathia. What a joke.


i thought this was a good sac i had to bring out my chess board and go over the moves. To me it seems black has no defense to slow the attack look at blacks' 8th rank


 an interesting idea and position.  after this diagram I would play b-b7 and q-c8,every queen sac deserves another.  white would then be down an exchange (with compensation for sure but definitely a hard fight from there on out)....

 

But, after saying all that I black could have probably played bxr instead of pxq and you would be a backward pawn up down an exchange with active pieces.  Probably a +/=.  But, nothing I would be afraid to play against as black at that point.  R-e8, q-c8 and possibly even giving the exchange back at an advantageous point.

 

My preference...It would probably be slightly better to play b-b7 because then white has to give back a lot of his active pieces for blacks inactive ones and end up down material (which was the reason he sacked) and it is positionally slightly better in the pxq variation than in the bxr. 

30th December 2008, 04:47pm
#18
by shuttlechess92
California United States
Member Since: Jul 2008
Member Points: 1918

those knights ruled the board, but that queen sac was... amazing!

thanks for such a great game, my eyes and mind thank you!

30th December 2008, 07:51pm
#19
by quny
virginia United States
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 144

yeah everyone is so focus on the queen sac no one but shuttlechess notice the knights squeezing the air out of black like a boa....which makes the queen sac really a tempo move for white

30th December 2008, 08:00pm
#20
by Phelon
California United States
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Member Points: 1156

I think 11.c4 would have served you better and gained you more space.

Very nice game overall. I think even if he had taken your queen with his pawn you are correct there would be no real way to stop your rooks without trading his queen and rook for your doubled rooks, (or saccing his rook for your knight but that still leaves your rooks in a very strong position).

 

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