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shepi13
What happens after 21... Rxc8 22. Bg5 - pinning the knight and threatening Bxf6 and de. I think that would be quite annoying to black, and the rook might have to move off the c file to help out.
-waller-
This is maybe made even stranger given that a year earlier, a game continued with 21.b3 instead of Rxc8, and White managed to win.
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1330381
I can't see anything after 21...Rxc8 either. My thoughts were pretty much just 22.de de 23.Bg5 threatens to remove the bishop on d7's guard, kinda like shepi13 said - but there seems to be nothing after just 23...Be6
MDOC777
I'll analyze it tomorrow.
hankas
When I look at the typical GM games, my thinking usually goes "Wow! Why didn't I think of that before?".
However, when I look at Super GM games, it goes "#$%^&! What the heck are these dudes trying to do?". The funny thing is that when I plug in these moves into chess engines, they usually get a good or excellent evaluation from the engines. It was as if they were cheating and played using engines.
The last Super GMs whose reasoning I can still follow are Karpov and Kasparov. The younger generations of super GMs just completely baffle me.
I've already used an engine, this time I'll use my head.
My thought was Bg5 before de, then Be6 could be met by d5 maybe?
AnnaZC
Better yet, why are you using ratatouie's traditional titling format to ask it?
Lol.
I am telling you the guy is a trendsetter. Soon everybody will start posting like this:
hello hankas here how's everybody doing i just drop by to say hello cheerios hankas out
I like that format too
ratatouie
hankas send me some tactics puzzles.
Defence4Gizchehs
yo dawg, I herd u liek- okay, can't think of a good meme. Nevermind.
To answer the OP, I guess we could solve this by assuming the move was correct, then thinking backwards.
The most likely reason white exchanged rooks would be that white wants to prevent black from doing the same. The difference it makes is that white's queen would get to stay in the same spot instead of having to recapture where the rook was. As a result, white would be giving up control of the c-file, and gaining more control of different diagonals.
Most of white's pieces seem to be heading towards the kingside, so it doesn't look like the c-file affects white's plans as much. More importantly, white's bishop already controls the dark diagonal, so a queen might only get in the way. Finally, I think the reason has to do with white's a and b pawns. A rook exchange forces black to recapture with the queen or bishop. (Note that if black takes with rook, white wins a pawn with dxe5. Currently, the rook is defending e5 with the threat of a revealed attack using the bishop.) In the given position, both queen and bishop are guarding white's b-pawn, thus a rook exchange essentially gives white a bit of indirect control over that pawn.
ofcourse I am a Dedicated Correspondance ChessPlayer, and so I am not used to analyze and make a Conclusion about Positions Quickly.... However, I still looked a bit to the Position while you were Explaining, and I looked at the Details you gave.... Thumbs-up of how you explained it and ( all ) the Details you gave!And I hope that I can surely thumbs-up the Content of what you said as well, because you deserved it!You and ' the Hankas ' are good ChessPlayers !
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