14625 Players currently online!
Man vs. Machine - good luck!
Turn-based games at any time!
Vote for the best move to win!
Do you have what it takes?
Sharpen your tactical vision!
Get advice and game insights!
Learn from top players & pros!
View millions of master games!
Your virtual chess coach!
Perfect your opening moves!
Test your skills vs. computer!
Find the right private coach!
Can you solve it each day?
Bring it all together!
Beginners, start here!
Make friends & play team games!
News from the world of chess!
Search all Chess.com members!
Find local clubs & events!
Who's the best of your friends?
Read what members are saying!
It's a sad post-mortem I'll ask you now to help me with... Recently I've realized just how important psychology is when you're playing a human opponent, especially in quicker games! So I played a rapid game, 15min. per side, and got into the ultra-sharp position below:
If you were white, this is well...
*facepalm* I was OBVIOUSLY Black in this game. Care to help the right side now?
I'm sorry to disagree with you, but I would rather have the White pieces here.
You have no attack that I can see. Maybe you really do need to be a GM or some crazy computer program to try to make something out of this for Black! OK but in truth, this would require a great amount of patience. Black needs to fix his position while also defending (Rc1 soom becomes very dangerous), and then maybe he can use his material advantage for something other than making the board heavier.
It looks like Kf7 is important for defense purposes but I could be missing something in my 10 second analysis.
Dammit, looks like my post from yesterday didn't post. Grrrr...
I would rather have White here. It's amazing what 2 or 3 things in your enemy camp can do. I don't think you have an attack if your opponent is careful. Rather, take advantage of time - make your opponent impatient, as you've got quite a fortress. To be honest, I think White will win - as soon as the pieces are exchanged off.
I've found that one of the most difficult habits to learn is that of never assuming your opponent won't find the necessary defense. Trust me guys, you'll never grow as a chess player if you bank on attack plans that require your opponent to miss something. I know because I do it all the time... and look at my Live rating lol. That's what I get! Honestly, I lose more games to this than to blunders of my own.
25... Qf2+ 26. Kh1 Qe1+ 27. Bf1 Qxf1#
For ScarredEyes (and others) : the bishop sacrifice is simply refutated by :
Other moves lose also due to White's lead in material. The attack against White's king is no problem as White controls the light squares.
I'd take white in that position any day, as black looks directionless and has holes everywhere. White has two nice passers to boot!
Yeah, I checked it with Fritz 6 (!), and it says White's about four pawns up in the diagram position. Oh, well, at least it was realistic I'd lose in that position. I didn't really blunder anything afterwards, and I'm glad about that!
Just an observation, 1....fxg3 seems to be very effective considering that one threat is 2....gxf2+
Meh...that's what you get for a half-hour sleepy analysis from someone who plays chess for fun and rarely studies =p
But thank you for your contribution...I'm not sure if I would've found that. But all I'm saying...what I hope was saying, was that Black's hope was in defence, not offense, as there is no suitable attack...And I had to start that analysis from scratch.
@irontiger - on your second diagram, I remember suggesting on the post-that-got-lost 1...Qe7, reasoning that black might be able to hold off the attack...but even then, White's just got too many pawns even if it got into the endgame. But anyway (yes I'm now also sleepy) I saw the moves Bxd5-Rxf6 by White, and so took on Qe7. What was wrong with Qe7?
Secondly, with the variation 2...fxg3 3.Rc8+, why not 3...Nf8?
Good point, I forgot some lines.
...Qe7 is basically the same as ...Qd7, the Bxd5 pin of a rook ends the game.
3...Nf8 is really resistant due to threats of promotion of the f2 pawn. In fact the only winning line I found goes into the endgame with equal pieces ! All natural moves lose !
So I think we can agree that Black has pretty much no hope against a computer in this position. And that Black's only chance of anything more than 0 points is to keep his pieces on the board - once they're gone, the passers on the queenside wins the game.
@irontiger Oh and thank you for showing that Nf8 is quite good...I was thinking when reading through the previous posts that I remember that it was a very important defensive move. Wooo...got something right (and I'm not that good at defense). Quite gratifying to see a line leading straight into mate =)
Are all chess players insane?
by EscherehcsE a few minutes ago
Are openings important? Recommendation
by I_Am_Second 4 minutes ago
Chess should be a subject in high school
by kaynight 6 minutes ago
I have notified my local police, I felt I should notify chess.com as well.
by LegendAA22 7 minutes ago
What would be the rating of a top chess player in the late 1800s today
by yureesystem 9 minutes ago
Show Me Your Favorite Chess Clock...
by FrankHelwig 13 minutes ago
opponent stops after 2nd move
by Jason110 15 minutes ago
Chess collectors international
by wiscmike 16 minutes ago
Would you be able to solve this o:
by eciruam 20 minutes ago
If you could change one rule of chess,what would it be?
by Litwitlou 21 minutes ago
Why Join | Chess Topics |
Help & Support |
© 2015 Chess.com
• Chess - English
We are working hard to make Chess.com available in over 70 languages. Check back over the year as we develop the technology to add more, and we will try our best to notify you when your language is ready for translating!