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ChessforFunn
Any suggestions????
Edit: Qe4 wins, so dont bother with Bh3.
DrSpudnik
6. d6 is a blunder. You have to challenge the advance Knight with c3
Hey, I know. This is not "perfect chess", this is a blowout.
IM pfren
Yes, 6.c3 b5 7.Bf1! is the test of Black's opening.
6.d6 is not a blunder, just a secondrate move. The real blunder is 7.Nxf7?? after which white is totally lost.
9...Bh3? may win, but 9...Bg4 and 9...Qe4+ are much quicker.
Lemme expand on this.
Pfren, how does Bh3 not win?
bruceybaby100
White is lost. Instead of black playing bh3 should play Qf4+ . wins the queen or mate with nf4. From the top example
Oh! Sorry, different variation.
Bh3 wins, but ...Bg4 gets the full house at once.
In #5, the old line is 8.Ne4 when 8...Qh4? is ultimately unsound, but 8...Ne6! gives Black good compensation for the pawn. The problem for Black is the line 8.cd4! Qxg5 9.Bxb5+ Kd8 10.0-0(!) Bb7 11.Qf3 which has been played quite a bit recently, and Black is suffering.
I REALLY want to show my secret line, but no. I can't.
It's apparent that you cannot show something that doesn't exist.
Cataphract887
Play what?
10...Bh3 blunders a piece after 11.Qf3 (which was white's intention, in any case).
To OP: There are whole books on the 2 Knights Defense, you know.
paulgottlieb
IM pfen has a habit of throwing cold water on people's fantasy variations by actually looking at the board and then looking one move further. Maybe it's a habit we should all try to cultivate!
It's no disgrace not to know a variation and to fall into a bad position, as White did in this game, but unless you're going to look up the opening afterwards and find out where you went wrong, you're kind of wasting your time. As pointed out, 6.d6 is not best, but it's not a stupid move, particularly if you're not familiar with this line. But 7.Nxf7 was a real blunder, and it wasn't that hard to see. In any case, I hope White looked this opening up after the game and learned something
... This has never been played in a whole game that i ever know of. Just Btw.
Yeesh! Not even close to my intention.
Going for a cheapo on g2 does not work: on a direct 10...Nf4 white has 11.Bc6! Rb8 12.de5, while on 10...Rb8 11.Bc6 ed4!? 12.d3 Nf4 the new move 13.Na3! gives white a clear advantage.
SandyJames
Thank you IM Pfren for your insights. I know this old game but I never play e4 - not a single game since I started playing on this site. Always 1 d4.
Thank you,
majorkevin12
why doesnt qe4 win the bishop can kill the queen
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