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this type of pawn storm ok in blitz?


  • 2 years ago · Quote · #1

    johnny_r

    Completely left my king on his own by move 22..

    Did I get lucky this game or is this totally acceptable in blitz? I think i've seen this in bullet.



  • 2 years ago · Quote · #2

    corum

    great play!!

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #3

    quadrewple

    Though pushing kingside pawns creates weaknesses in your territory, if your opponent cannot exploit them then it's not negative for you.

    You gained space on the kingside with those pawn moves, and your pieces were better positioned than your opponents' to control those weakened squares.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #4

    johnny_r

    Thanks! I guess if the opponent can't get to my king he doesn't need defense even if the queens are still on the board. Hard to believe but seems to be the case.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #5

    Svekke

    On move 33 Qxc8+

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #6

    johnny_r

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #7

    InfiniteFlash

    Pushing pawns gives you control over squares.

    Controlling squares has responsibilities.

    Since pushing pawns always leaves weaknesses, no matter how small, you have a responsibility to protect yourself if you come under siege due to these weaknesses.

    With great power comes great responsibility.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #8

    SmyslovFan

    In blitz, pawn storms are especially effective. Attacks are easier to play than defenses. If you are white and your opponent castles before you do, consider it a green light to attack with a pawn storm! And even if you have both castled on the same wing, as in here, you can often get a killer pawn storm going.

    Don't over-analyse your blitz games. The object of the game is to win. It's ok to win ugly.

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #9

    johnny_r

    @SmyslovFan wrote "Don't over-analyse your blitz games".. I've heard that the best way to improve is by looking at your games through a microscope. Maybe I've heard wrong by there's a rumor that it's better to do that than to study the classics or memorize openings.

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #10

    AndyClifton

    Well, what is your title question asking exactly?  Doesn't seem to mean much of anything.

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #11

    yeres30

    ANALYSIS OF POSITION AFTER 25.e5 Qh5



  • 24 months ago · Quote · #12

    waffllemaster

    johnny_r wrote:

    @SmyslovFan wrote "Don't over-analyse your blitz games".. I've heard that the best way to improve is by looking at your games through a microscope. Maybe I've heard wrong by there's a rumor that it's better to do that than to study the classics or memorize openings.

    Well first of all your title asks if it's good in the context of blitz... not if it's good objectively.  This is sort of anti-analysis.  You mention putting games under a microscope, sure, that's when you try to get to the truth of a position, not find out if it was good in a biltz game lol.

    And the point of analysing games (and you're right, this is a good practice) is to be able to fix your thinking as well as learn new patterns.  In blitz there is no real thinking, so you're just learning patterns... in which case it's better to ask these kinds of questions about master games you've played through because these patterns are worth remembering.  Blitz patterns not so much...

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #13

    johnny_r

    thanks yeres30 and wafflemaster. Andy i guess i'm still looking for hard rules and it seems like there are ideas in chess but not many rules and the existing ones are often broken. I used to always keep my king surrounded with pawns in blitz and was surprised to win the above game cause I broke my own rule. So I was simply asking if that rule even existed.

  • 24 months ago · Quote · #14

    yeres30

    johnny_r wrote:

    thanks yeres30 and wafflemaster. Andy i guess i'm still looking for hard rules and it seems like there are ideas in chess but not many rules and the existing ones are often broken. I used to always keep my king surrounded with pawns in blitz and was surprised to win the above game cause I broke my own rule. So I was simply asking if that rule even existed.

    Of course, pawn storm in blitz is ok. Even in standard blitz Even in OTB tournament play. 

    The pawn storm by Black or White is a standard technique in several openings.

    However, it  happens most often when the center is locked by a chain of pawns.

    The Mar Del Plata Variation of the King's Indian Defense is a perfect example of the Pawn Storm.

    Here's the position of the game that originated the Mar Del Plata Variation of the King's Indian. 

    The position is after 15...Ng6.  Notice that all of Black's pawns are storming the King's wing.

     

    Here is the final position of the game where Black Won.

    Black Resigned as White's K gets into mate: See diagram with analysis below.

     








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