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  • 10 months ago · Quote · #1

    guilySU

    Hi

     

    latetly I've been practicing a lot. Study practice and so on..I even play games with chat with some really nice guys , much higher rated then me,but the more I train, the worse I seem to get..latetly I am just beeing bate..helpless bate ..

     

    I am off course talking about my live games, against players from my own level..

     

    start good, feel like a got a serieus advantage( one or two pieces up) and still manage to give it completly away..I lose in a fashion that I seem to be playing against absolute masters, whom calculated his or her sceem at leats 20 moves deep..I dont think so

     

  • 10 months ago · Quote · #2

    Philipper

    Good game. I liked your position untill move 24. The move 24.Ng3 looks like a crucial mistake because then the Black knight becomes very strong on f4. So 24.g3 or even 24.f4 would be an improvement. 27.Ne4 loses an important central pawn. 32.Rf1 is losing because of d2 and Re1+.

  • 10 months ago · Quote · #3

    harryz

    pawns r crucial. dont give ur opponent such an advanced passed pawn and dont blunder any of yours

  • 10 months ago · Quote · #4

    aggressivesociopath

    it is hard to tell because you handled the opening so damn passivly. What did you have planned against 16...Bg4? Black has the idea of Bxf3, gxf3 Ng6 when the knight will come to a nice home on f4 or h4 with mate threats or the win of the f pawn. 16...Bg4 17. Ne2 Bxf3 18. gxf6 Ng6 19. Kh1 (otherwise Black plays 19...Nh4 threatening Qg6+ and Nxf3+) 19...Na6 and Black brings this knight around to e6 with a rather large advantage. This leaves 18. Qxf3 Qxf3 19. gxf3 Rad8 20. f4 Ng6 which is playable.

    20. Rd6, Black can't save the queen and 20...Nd5 21. Rxf6 Nxb6 22. Rxb6 is a knight.

  • 10 months ago · Quote · #5

    qablo

    Why 3.d3? I mean, is not bad or losing, but why not develop the bishop and then play d3? I think is much more natural. Anyway, you did quite OK in the opening, probably before a move like dxe5, just put your rooks in the center, Rad1, Rfe1, let him waste the time on taking or keep the tension there, your pieces are better than black´s.

    Then you lost control when you play Qb6-Qxb7-Qb5, 3 tempos for one not very crucial pawn and black play good and generate a strong central passer, from that point it´s not easy to play for you. Probably sometimes is better to think not in terms of material, but in terms of activity. 

    Still, I think you did pretty good. Show us the game with 2 pieces up and not winning them, probably there are things there to learn (for yourself).

  • 9 months ago · Quote · #6

    guilySU

    qablo schreef:

    Why 3.d3? I mean, is not bad or losing, but why not develop the bishop and then play d3? I think is much more natural. Anyway, you did quite OK in the opening, probably before a move like dxe5, just put your rooks in the center, Rad1, Rfe1, let him waste the time on taking or keep the tension there, your pieces are better than black´s.

    Then you lost control when you play Qb6-Qxb7-Qb5, 3 tempos for one not very crucial pawn and black play good and generate a strong central passer, from that point it´s not easy to play for you. Probably sometimes is better to think not in terms of material, but in terms of activity. 

    Still, I think you did pretty good. Show us the game with 2 pieces up and not winning them, probably there are things there to learn (for yourself).

    Well  ive been looking for those games, where I am up a few pieces..but you know what the thing is? Its very embarrasing how i am up ,both positional and material wise, and then just blunder..just miscalculate the situation and totally lose it..

     

    Ive really looked at that move d3 (back then I had no particular reason to play it), and I think I was just trying to keep things together..learing the rule of innitiative , right? keep that fire going once its burning..

     

    And then the most crucial part, the queen move from king to queen side. I was greedy trying to gain material, while it didn't realize the importance of my defence..

     

    I am stupid enough in cases like this to DONT realise that danger is only two knight moves away..more precisly, I actually move my knight pure outta reaction to his move..the problem was I did not had a plan..nothing more concrete then just attack, keep that initiative and slowly break up his kingside..

     

    meanwhile I've been losing (goes better now) and I am well aware that my oppenent is rated 100 points higher..it shoulndt matter , but it did..that explains why I made that knight move.. Black had a clear plan, while I didn't. I felt intimidated, somehow..

     

    What I've learned, beside the fact I should've moved my g pawn instead?

    -Sleep well, eat well dont get aggitated(better:too angry) by losing when youre still a novice. Have fun playing hehe

    - check youre opponents plan

     all cliches, but beginners like me should get all these basicprincipels hammered into their head, while play play play learn learn learn..

    still though, I am curieus..looking at the game I still cannot figure out what white should do from, lets say, move 24? I mean general plans, does anyone see anything that white could do from there on? is there any long term goal to follow..

  • 9 months ago · Quote · #7

    panagiotis_p

    after castling you should have removed the knight from the F file pushed the pawn and get a rook open file targeting the queen

  • 7 months ago · Quote · #8

    iamdeafzed

    My comments on the above game (part 1):

    2...Qf6?! - Dubious, but playable I guess. Nc6/Nf6/d6 are better ways to defend black's e- pawn. One of the drawbacks of this move is the king's knight no longer has the f6 square to jump to.
    3.d3?! - Nc3 is more flexible...develops a piece, allows Bc4, and protects e4. d3 only does the last of these good points (though it does also prepare to develop the dark-squared bishop, but Nc3 is still better).

    Moves up to 8.Qd2 all look more or less ok to me.
    8.Qd2 - Decent move, but I would have prefered 8.O-O. White need not fear the reply 8...Bxe3, as 9.fxe3 would give white an open f- file (i.e. automatically active rook) and control of the central dark squares in return for the doubled pawn. In other words, the activity white would gain from the doubled pawn should more than compensate for the 'weakness' of the doubled pawn (and indeed, it's not clear how black would target the e3 pawn).
    8...Ba7?!
    9.O-O - Bxa7(Bxa7,Rxa7; Qe3,Ra8), forcing black to move his rook to an undesireable location is better I reckon.

  • 7 months ago · Quote · #9

    iamdeafzed

    (part 2):

    24.Ng3 - Better was probably 24.f4 (which stops Nf4 and contests control of some center squares...something white needs to do in this position now that black has two somewhat menacing c- and d- pawns). The reply 24...Rfd8 (threatening d3) is answerable by 25.Rd3.

    27.Ne4 - Most likely a mistake, as it unprotects the e4 pawn and white can't make use of any of the possible discoveries after 27...Qxe4 (what your opponent played). 27.Qc3 instead.

    28.Nc3 - The discovered attack does nothing useful for white. He should have cut his losses and settled on the better Qc3 (which gets his queen back into the game and keeps his knight closer to his king side, among other benefits).

    28...Qg5
    29.g3 - Now black is quite possibly better, despite ostensibly being a pawn down. White has been forced to make a weakening move near his king, his queen is out of play, his pieces aren't anywhere near his king (which is now starting to need protection), and black still has his c- and d- pawns. By contrast, white has an extra b- pawn, but it's hardly doing anything to help his position now. White's position is becoming critical.

    31.Kh1 - Another (probably) bad move. Better (in my view) is 31.b4 (because if 31...cxb4, then 32.Qxg5,hxg5 and then 33.gxf4,cxb3 34.cxb3). Of course, black can reply 31...Ne2+ when 32.Kg2 is probably best (allowing black to force a draw with Nf4+ and Ne2+ if he wants).

    32.Rf1 - Extremely passive and probably a mistake. Kg2 (allowing the above mentioned possible perpetual check draw) was likely white's best at this point.
    32...d2 - Now white should probably lose by force.

  • 6 months ago · Quote · #10

    guilySU

    Thank you so much! This is great!Cry

  • 6 months ago · Quote · #11

    maDawson

    One of the hardest things when you are on a losing spree, is playing the game like you are going to win. Especially when you are playing against someone supposedly in your own calibur (you may feel like there is so much to lose). I felt that black made lot's of quiet moves that pushed the flow and position of the game. You responded well but at some point even a defensive and safe style of play needs to drive the tempo.


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