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A tactical win (Against a 1900+!!! yay me :P)

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22nd April 2008, 08:39am
#1
by ih8sens
Sudbury, Ontario Canada
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 971

I didn't annotate it heavily, I'm kinda in a rush here but the game is a lot of fun, take a look!

22nd April 2008, 08:50am
#2
by mmonse
United States
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 3
Hmmm.. I didn't understand 14... f5.  Isn't 14... fxg5 a good exchange?
22nd April 2008, 08:55am
#3
by ih8sens
Sudbury, Ontario Canada
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 971
14. ... fxg5 15. Qh5! and we're looking at mate.  Very good question.

22nd April 2008, 09:27am
#4
by lubo
Sofia Bulgaria
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 215

you mean 20.Bg6 and Qg7 mate... 20.Qe7+ black can take with Nxd7

 

Very good game! 


22nd April 2008, 09:35am
#5
by raton
Wheeling, IL United States
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 33

rats

 


22nd April 2008, 09:40am
#6
by ih8sens
Sudbury, Ontario Canada
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 971
lubo wrote:

you mean 20.Bg6 and Qg7 mate... 20.Qe7+ black can take with Nxd7

 

Very good game! 


 haha right! I fixed it!

Lol thx. 


22nd April 2008, 09:47am
#7
by woodstock
Strasbourg France
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 144
6...c4?????? It may not apply to the Alapin Sicilian but in the French or Queen openning (Cole system) it is a positional mistake, that can be veey detrimental to black's hopes.
22nd April 2008, 09:51am
#8
by woodstock
Strasbourg France
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 144
Kf7 may have been better, but then  there is a risk that the 2 pawn ahead of the king may blow up  too soon.
22nd April 2008, 10:01am
#9
by demuxer
Guatemala Guatemala
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 421

hey, very good game.

 

surely castling on that weak side was the mistake, I made that blunder sometimes. 


22nd April 2008, 10:04am
#10
by someone_british
United Kingdom
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 138
Interesting choice there with the d3... I always go for d4 myself!
22nd April 2008, 10:13am
#11
by ih8sens
Sudbury, Ontario Canada
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 971
woodstock wrote: 6...c4?????? It may not apply to the Alapin Sicilian but in the French or Queen openning (Cole system) it is a positional mistake, that can be veey detrimental to black's hopes.

 c4 is very playable here... as is it in the french (by the way) ... I don't personally play the french but I was recently anihilated by an international correspondence master in a line where he played c4 with the idea of backing my bishop.

 

 


22nd April 2008, 10:51am
#12
by Smartattack
Portugal
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 475
very poor display by a 1900+......
22nd April 2008, 11:08am
#13
by colle-pirc
purcellville United States
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 300
...c4 is a mistake for someone playing against the colle system, which strangely enough your attack transposed into something similiaresque lol you get to keep the white squared bishop attacking h7, the critical square.

22nd April 2008, 11:32am
#14
by PawnFork
St. Louis United States
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 299
Not a bad combination.  Of course the unforced blunder that really happened was good too.  Congratulations!
22nd April 2008, 12:38pm
#15
by ih8sens
Sudbury, Ontario Canada
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 971
Smartattack wrote: very poor display by a 1900+......

 I agree!  ya know what though.. 2300's aren't perfect either, I've seen some hideous blunders.. only one of them ever made against me though :(.

 

 


23rd April 2008, 11:07am
#16
by Smartattack
Portugal
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 475
ih8sens wrote: Smartattack wrote: very poor display by a 1900+......

 I agree!  ya know what though.. 2300's aren't perfect either, I've seen some hideous blunders.. only one of them ever made against me though :(.

 

 


True.some months ago i saw a 2300(IM) drawing a 1650 on the Lisbon open.


27th April 2008, 10:47am
#17
by grolich
Israel Israel
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 234

Surely ...c4 in that position is playable. However, when black stops his own central play, and the pawn formation hints at a white kingside attack, he'd better play accordingly. ....f6, the move immediately following ...c4 is a clear mistake in that regard. Black should make sure he is prepaed for this weakening. Although he DOES want to play for it in the future.

 

Hell, white could have even just castled (8.o-o instead of Bf4), and black would be in serious problem regarding his piece development if he tries to make use of the f6 move immediately: 8...fxe5 9.Nxe5 Nxe5 10.dxe5. How to develop??? 10...Nh6 (thinking the open lines in front of white's king would give a lot of play leads to: 11.Nbd2! (to prevent Kd7 due to Nxc4).

 

Actualy, white threatens Qh5+ Kd7 Nxc4:).

What's black going to do now? castle?:)

 

 and if not an immediate ...fxe5, then what? f6 is just a premature and unnecessary weakening.

 

But then, what else? after closing the central play with ...c4, black cannot place his king in danger on the kingside. In many of these positions I've seen the move ...h5 played by many strong players, and I think it is very appropriate here.

 

following Nh6-f5... White has some problems too. Castling o-o would play into black's hands, but white is sooo far away from queenside castling.

 

I'd say this is a double edged position.


27th April 2008, 07:18pm
#18
by Darthstapler8
United States
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 121
Such a great game. I also like your annotations - "Frenchish looking thingy" LOL
27th April 2008, 07:41pm
#19
by Azoth
Ecatepec Estado de Mexico Mexico
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 338
ih8sens wrote: 14. ... fxg5 15. Qh5! and we're looking at mate.  Very good question.

 not quite true, after 15.Qh5 black can play 15. ... Rf5 giving back some material to defend, white keep the upper hand but black its not dead yet. but anyway move 7 from black show that this guy had no idea about the french so did move 8, both sides made mistakes, but in general i think you can learn a lot about this game if you try to analise what you did wrong and how you could have improve your position i.e you could have made a better 9 and 10 move also move 12 have a tactical inconvenient you can look for it if you wish.

anyway congratz and gl. 


28th April 2008, 06:55am
#20
by grolich
Israel Israel
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 234
Azoth wrote: ih8sens wrote: 14. ... fxg5 15. Qh5! and we're looking at mate.  Very good question.

 not quite true, after 15.Qh5 black can play 15. ... Rf5 giving back some material to defend, white keep the upper hand but black its not dead yet.


I have to disagree.

 

Not dead yet??? I'm pretty sure black is quite dead there:

After 14. ... fxg5 15. Qh5! Rf5, white is by no means obliged to accept lesser material offers and can request to double the stakes:

16.g4, and the only move which seems to not reach an instantly lost position is 16...Be8, but after 17.Qh6, white seems to be easily winning after

 

17...Bf8  (seems like the only move. gxh looks like even more suicidal to me) 18.Qxe6+ Rf7 19.Bxh7! Kxh7 20.Rxf7 Bxf7 21.Qxf7+

 

This is just lost for black. no? I mean: 21...Kh8 Rf1 and now, to exchange queens, black will have to give up the d5 pawn as well... Anyone thinks there is a chance to save this as black?:) (I clearly don't).

 

I see nothing else for black.

 

So I'd say fxg would indeed have been instantly losing. Very short variations too.

 


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