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is it ok to draw here?


  • 2 years ago · Quote · #1

    EA21

    this is a game i playd here today on chees.com
    its a semi blitz game 15/10 and
    i am with the black picess.
     after 25 moves my opponent
    was offer me to draw the game,which i accepted immediately,even though i have  more time on the clock (i had mybee 10m and he had 5 or 6), i Thought It Was fair draw,
    but now i am not so sure about it..
     so mybee you can help me to figure it out.
    what do you think about the game?
    you think it was ok for me to take the draw?
    and what do you think about the game in generaly,is it well playd for me? did i miss somthing,mybee an obvious
    tactic ir somthing?
    thenks.
  • 2 years ago · Quote · #2

    _Chess_Boy_

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  • 2 years ago · Quote · #3

    EA21

    "may be a few mistakes in their though that were minor."

    where and what?

    and the most improtent thing for me is to know if my decision to take the draw was correct?

    more comments please.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #4

    Fiveofswords

    well the game looks boring. But i dont see any reason to offer or to accept a draw. Why did you start playing? Theres still some chess to play here. I personally see no reason to draw a game unless its some easily drawn endgame position.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #5

    EA21

    "see no reason to offer or to accept a draw"

    so,what can be done here? (from my point of view)

    my posittion is not so good as you see,i am very closed and there aint much thet i can do actualy.. i didnt see any way to brack in and attack,and we both have mybee jest  5-10 m more to play so consider thet..

     

     

     

     

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #6

    Fiveofswords

    lets see you could improve the position of your queen. play Bb8, Qf8 and Qd6

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #7

    bjazz

    Nothing there that qualifies as a blunder. You definetely shouldn't have taken the draw.

    "my posittion is not so good as you see,i am very closed and there aint much thet i can do actualy.. i didnt see any way to brack in and attack,and we both have mybee jest  5-10 m more to play so consider thet.."

    So with the position closed, why not open it then? Maybe your next plan could've been to force an exchange of bishops by moving yours to e8, and then prepare for an e5 push to open some lines for your rooks. The rooks on the board crave for open files anyway. As for the time controls, 5-10 minutes is plenty of time. With 15/10 controls it's from quarter to over half the time reserved for the game.

     

     

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #8

    EA21

    Fiveofswords after Bb8 he can play g3 and then Bf4 trade bishops,if i take- he take with the pawn and open up the g file for his rook if i dont take he take and after capture with the rook the e pawn hanging so its not so easy.

    bjazz

    force an exchange of bishops why? my bishop is better dont you think? and after the trade he can play f4 and after thet no point of e5.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #9

    bjazz

    It's not hugely better, and although it's guarding king's possible escape square on h2, then lines still need to be opened for any possible back-rank tricks. You could keep them ofcourse and it would be no worse, but you're up in material, so you might as well go for a forcing move to simplify.

    As for Fiveofswords' idea which is just as playable: If you would trade on f4, then he'd end up with doubled pawns which would quite nicely play into the fact that his queen and rook are quite awkwardly stuck on the kingside.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #10

    Fiveofswords

    but if i do this he can do that and yeah yeah just play man

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #11

    bjazz

    Exactly

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #12

    EA21

    "but if i do this he can do that and yeah yeah just play man"

    you serious man? this is the best answer you can give?

    come on..

     if i shold improve the position of my queen by playing Bb8, Qf8 and Qd6

    so explain,after g3-Bb8  Bf4 is it still looks like a winning game for black?  the g file is open for his rook and i trade a good bishop for bad one. what i missing? his double pawn? so what. he has more attacking possbilitis for it.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #13

    Fiveofswords

    You wanted to know if its ok to accept a draw offer. Of course its legal, you can also resign on mvoe one if you want. I just dont see any reason why in this position either player should offer, or accept a draw...this is just a continuing chess game. You can analyze this position for 3000 years with rybka and still never find a forced draw. If you think black is lost then maybe when he offers draw, its better to just resign

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #14

    PepeSilvia

    If you think your position is lost, and your opponent offers a draw, you take it.

    That being said, I think this position favors black. White's pieces are tied up on the kingside and will take a while to untangle. Black can probably open up a good advantage on the queenside if he plays right. Given the time advantage, you probably had winning chances and agreeing to a draw was a little generous of you. It's certianly not a "drawn" position.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #15

    EA21

    "You wanted to know if its ok to accept a draw offer. Of course its legal, you can also resign on mvoe one if you want"

    did i ask you if its legal or not?

    "If you think black is lost then maybe when he offers draw, its better to just resign"

    no,id didn't think thet black is lost.

    i take the draw becuse i think its fair draw

    and becuse i didn't find any good plan of how to continue.

    PepeSilvia
    i dont think the computer agree with you.

     

     

     

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #16

    MrGame

    d5? and/or Bf6? Maybe

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #17

    milsrilion

    EA21 wrote:

    "You wanted to know if its ok to accept a draw offer. Of course its legal, you can also resign on mvoe one if you want"

    did i ask you if its legal or not?

    "If you think black is lost then maybe when he offers draw, its better to just resign"

    no,id didn't think thet black is lost.

    i take the draw becuse i think its fair draw

    and becuse i didn't find any good plan of how to continue.

     

     

     

     


    I think that you made the correct decision of taking a draw when you didn't have a clear path to victory. However, be sure to analyze the game very carefully with Rybka (not Fritz). Try to come up with concrete, tangible reasons for Rybka's suggestions. Abstract reasoning (e.g. "White gets an open file") is not as useful as concrete reasoning (e.g. "Here, white can play . . . which will threaten . . . and . . . Black can't allow white to do so. Hence, black has to play . . ."). Eventually, you will become a player who relies entirely on concrete analysis and very little on abstract reasoning. At that point, finding an effective plan for playing any position will become second nature to you.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #18

    EA21

     milsrilion thenks for the advice.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #19

    wobert

    hi ea21, been busy sorry for not being on. i looked at the game, very nice. being that you only had that kind of time left, i think the draw was ok but anything can happen. i might of went on with it myself.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #20

    EA21

     i think thet too.

    thenks for chacking my game :)


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