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In your diagram, 19...Bg6 ?? is just a tactical blunder. 19...c5 is better.
I must admit White has some counterplay though, I thought he couldn't push the d pawn that easily.
I agree Bg6 is bad, but black doesn't really have an active plan and white has a long list of good moves
Black's plan : ...Bg6, then put the rooks on center files.
White's plan : develop the Bc1 "somehow". The problem is to find a satisfying 'somehow'. What is your list of good moves ?
But getting the bishop to g6 isn't easy, and putting the bishop there takes away the last square for the e5 knight, which is going to get challenged soon.
there are lots of tactics here so real calculation would be needed, but a general plan is to give up a pawn (or two?) to open up the position (which favors the bishops) to get the c1 bishop active...maybe after h3 bh5 nf5 c5...white could try b4-b5 (trading pawns on b4 is OK and I don't think the queen can take on b4)...R on a to b or d file...
the knight on f5 could be trapped by Qf6 so the knight check on e7 might have to come first, or perhaps just play b4-b5 before playing Nf5 (or b4-b5 even before h3?)
all of white's pieces have good activity
OK, back to real calculations : 19...c5, your move. There is no trapping of the knight anymore, and ...Bg6 is threatened in one move.
the more I look at this the more I like white. I think Black needs to be thinking defense -- close the position, limit the bishops, or to trade off one of white's bishops.
if it were black's turn then...c5 followed by ...Be6 is one idea...but it is white's turn and he can forcefully open up the position... I really dont think black has much hope :(
Ne7+, d4, b4
If 18. h3, c5. Then if 19. hxg4, cxd4; and if 20. cxd4, Nxg4 with Qg6 and Qh5+ to follow. Where can the N go? If 19. Nb5 (say), Bf5 hammering d3, and Qg6 (piling on d3) & Qh5 (attacking the weak k) is still a threat. White's developement isn't cooperating and his k-side is almost stripped of defenders. It only takes black 2 to 3 moves to implement some strong ideas; it takes white a few moves longer to do the same. But black must approach this position with some energy, or white will have an excellent game in a couple of moves. But I feel that the push c5 soon followed by Qg6 and/or Bf5 give black the advantage here.
At the end, and despite what the computers can say, I prefer the black pieces by far.
An obvious plan is to pile on the d3 pawn with the minor pieces (...Bh5-g6, ...Nc5) and it's not clear at all to me what the computer pulls out of his hat against that.
I don't think d3 is weak at all...i like the plan of h3 (where is the bishop going -- only h5), then Nf5 (allowing the pin on g6) but then after d4 black has no coordination and it looks to me like white is going to win material (I havent calculated everything though). black can't pile up on the pinned knight, and if he takes Bxf5 then after the queen recaptures both of black's knights are attacked...even if he finds a way to save them white has more time to improve his other pieces with Re1...at minimum he can with the h-pawn with Qg6+.
Black does not have any active plans, and no good squares for his pieces.
White should play 18.b4 to stop ...c5. If 18.h3 instead Black plays 18...c5! rather than moving the bishop. White is then in serious deep doo-doo.If the knight moves then ...Bf5 is crushing. If 19.hxg4 cxd4. Black is solid and White has serious weaknesses (d3, g4, g3).
19...c5 20.d4 looks horrible for Black, since he can't play 20...Nc6, as suggested, because of 21.Nxh6+ and the white queen guards h7.
pfren, do you mean the diagram in post 44?
Yup. But anyway, the whole variation hardly proves anything regarding the value of the opening.
Thanks, Batgirl, for an interesting position!
pfren, I agree with both your statements. It's just a random five minute game. But thanks for the input; I missed Nh6+, but I didn't want the N to get to f5 in the first place.
Yeah, that's a lot of analyzing over a 5/0 game I played with no idea what I was doing. The final position was unclear to me. Thanks for all the ideas.
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