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1st July 2008, 07:46pm
#1
by vj1
United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 161

This game is not only real and teaches you about an opening trap, it is entertaining, too.

 You won't believe the ratings

 


1st July 2008, 07:49pm
#2
by NM ozzie_c_cobblepot
United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 545
*sigh*
1st July 2008, 07:55pm
#3
by ezsqueeze95
Louisiana United States
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 81

this is not checkmate, i'm confused!FrownFrown

                                                      


1st July 2008, 07:57pm
#4
by vj1
United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 161
he resigned!
1st July 2008, 08:03pm
#5
by Badenstein
Ohio United States
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 23

if 5. . .  Be7 then 6. Qe7+ Qxe7  7. Nxe7  Kxe7

 Black can't castle and the material is even.  Not terrible, but quite a few people wouldn't play this.  Also, Black could have been embarassed by the situation.


1st July 2008, 08:06pm
#6
by Maxie
Nasr City, Cairo Egypt
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 29
Badenstein wrote:

if 5. . .  Be7 then 6. Qe7+ Qxe7  7. Nxe7  Kxe7

 Black rcan't castle and the material is even.  Not terrible, but quite a few people wouldn&Sprry#39;t play this.  Also, Black could have been embarassed by the situation.


 um sorry this is not the line

if 5...Be7 ,then 6.Nxd8 ,,,, black has no Queen

if 5.... Qe7 then 6.Nxe7

 it's a well known trap and u won't easily get it unless u see it before


1st July 2008, 08:07pm
#7
by drew_kennon
Shadyside United States
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 20
Badenstein wrote:

if 5. . .  Be7 then 6. Qe7+ Qxe7  7. Nxe7  Kxe7

 Black can't castle and the material is even.  Not terrible, but quite a few people wouldn't play this.  Also, Black could have been embarassed by the situation.


how is material even if black blocks with either his queen or bishop the knight takes the queen


1st July 2008, 08:07pm
#8
by jefe5000
Colorado United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 78
Badenstein, black loses the queen here.  I've gotten people with the same trap.  My question is, why do people play Petrov's defence if they don't know this trap?
1st July 2008, 08:08pm
#9
by Badenstein
Ohio United States
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 23
LOL.  you are right.  Embarassed  Gotta do better at studying the position.
1st July 2008, 08:09pm
#10
by TonightOnly
Phoenix, AZ United States
Member Since: Jun 2007
Member Points: 1171

I don't understand this. A player has worked hard enough to become a 1600 (nothing extraordinary, but not a beginner either) and decides to take up a new opening. No matter where he decides to look for info on the Petroff, this trap has to be one of the first things mentioned. Does this mean that the player spent less than 15 min. of research before taking up a new opening in a game? What kind of strategy is that?


1st July 2008, 08:24pm
#11
by onehandgann
Guatemala
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 361

Black can play Knight takes Knight right away on move 3 but has to play Queen e7 on the next move. Then when white plays QxN Black plays d6 and wins whites Knight and material is back to close to even(down a pawn instead of losing his queen). 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nxe5 Nxe4 4. Qe2 Qe7

5. Qxe4 d6  6.d4 d6xe5

That game shows a common trap in the russian defense. Black loses his queen to the knight after 5 . Nc6 check  so material is not even there.  Be7 is answered by NxQ. 

Better for black on move 3 is d6 pushing whites Knight back and then black can take whites pawn on e4 without hassles.  

 


1st July 2008, 08:25pm
#12
by maximus_dragon
Iowa United States
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 36
you can also do this in the ruy lopez after you castle kingside with the rook
1st July 2008, 08:28pm
#13
by vj1
United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 161

you are blind if you cant se me shrug.

 


1st July 2008, 08:42pm
#14
by onehandgann
Guatemala
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 361
True you can get that attack in the ruy lopez but again black has to play very badly. Nxe4  for black in the spanish is very playable(the open variation) but if black does not move his Knight to the correct square after Re1 he is  going to have a very difficult game.
2nd July 2008, 01:04am
#15
by SailingBiker1
Portugal
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 6

You need to try look more than a normal oppening...sometimes if you are not prepare and don't study why the oponent is doing that.......you miss something and you are "dead"......

there are several classic oppenings.....and most of players go to that way, but sometimes I play with different players and see they are trying to trap me with easy/ending oppenings and if I'm not focus.....I got a problem who take me a lot of time to resolve.... 

 

 

 


2nd July 2008, 04:04am
#16
by Dozy
Blue Mountains Australia
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 745
Never mind the analysis, vj1 -- let's get to the nub of it.  I just love the feeling when somebody walks into something like that.  Nice one!
2nd July 2008, 07:02am
#17
by vj1
United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 161
me too
2nd July 2008, 07:29am
#18
by rich
United Kingdom
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 7611
My shortest game is  a3 f5, I won check it out ! you will be amazed.
2nd July 2008, 07:39am
#19
by vj1
United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 161

this is my shortest by my opponent's resignation


2nd July 2008, 07:44am
#20
by sasha2
Waterloo, Ontario Canada
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 91
Black could do Qe7 Qe4 and f6 white  can't stop the Night getting captured by the  pawn.

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