Romance Isn't Dead

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29th September 2009, 03:03pm
#1
by Gonnosuke
Southern California Germany
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 2552

It's all downhill from here.

29th September 2009, 03:12pm
#2
by SerbianChessStar
Belgrade Serbia
Member Since: May 2009
Member Points: 2281

Very beautiful game with the kings gambit! :D

After 6. Ng5 what if black plays 6... f6, what is the best continuation?  Still sac the knight but without getting the pawn back?

29th September 2009, 03:13pm
#3
by NM ozzie_c_cobblepot
United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 3660

Clearly black played ...c6 eleven moves too late!

29th September 2009, 03:16pm
#4
by Gonnosuke
Southern California Germany
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 2552
ozzie_c_cobblepot wrote:

Clearly black played ...c6 eleven moves too late!


rofl!

29th September 2009, 03:26pm
#5
by Gonnosuke
Southern California Germany
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 2552
SerbianChessStar wrote:

After 6. Ng5 what if black plays 6... f6, what is the best continuation?  Still sac the knight but without getting the pawn back?


After 6...f6 7.Nh3 gxh3 8.Qh5+ black can "encourage" the perpetual which is why I only play this stuff against players who aren't likely to want a draw when faced with voodoo. Wink

29th September 2009, 03:29pm
#6
by SerbianChessStar
Belgrade Serbia
Member Since: May 2009
Member Points: 2281

oo kk thanks, ill try to avoid that..

i actually came across this position about an hour ago..

but instead of h4, i did h3 was this accurate?

29th September 2009, 03:39pm
#7
by Gonnosuke
Southern California Germany
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 2552

h3 is too slow for my taste but it's not a bad move by any means. 

When I'm considering moves in the early part of a King's Gambit game, I always ask myself:  Does it further development?  Does it maintain the initiative?  If a move doesn't fulfill one of those two requirements, I usually discard it unless tactics dictate otherwise.  Moves that fulfill both requirements are almost always the best candidates.  Put your Morphy hat on when you play the KG -- it sounds crazy but it helps!  When in doubt, ask yourself: What would Morphy do? Smile

29th September 2009, 03:44pm
#8
by Catalyst_Kh
Kharkov Ukraine
Member Since: Jan 2009
Member Points: 1077

Masterpiece! Looking at your game i am dreaming i will start to play KG myself one day.

29th September 2009, 03:48pm
#9
by Elubas
Buffalo United States
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 2379
ozzie_c_cobblepot wrote:

Clearly black played ...c6 eleven moves too late!


lol. Nice game Gonnosuke.

29th September 2009, 03:50pm
#10
by SerbianChessStar
Belgrade Serbia
Member Since: May 2009
Member Points: 2281
Catalyst_Kh wrote:

Masterpiece! Looking at your game i am dreaming i will start to play KG myself one day.


 Lol thats why im starting early.. as i get better as a chess player, my kg skills will also improve.

And thanks gonnosuke, ill stop bothering you,

P.S. a beautiful game to watch! It clearly shows Kings Gambit can be played at a high level.

29th September 2009, 03:55pm
#11
by JG27Pyth
NYC United States
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 1405
Gonnosuke wrote:
ozzie_c_cobblepot wrote:

Clearly black played ...c6 eleven moves too late!


rofl!


Gonnosuke... I really enjoyed the game, particularly the second half of the game and the finish. The result was a bit of a fait-accompli (you simplified into what looked to me at first blush like a pretty easily won ending) -- but mortzy managed to make things interesting and set a few problems for you, which you solved with panache!

Ozzie... any advice on how to handle the panov-botvinnik attack?  

29th September 2009, 04:15pm
#12
by nuclearturkey
International
Member Since: Aug 2009
Member Points: 615

Looking at that game just leaves me wanting more! Smile

29th September 2009, 04:20pm
#13
by NM ozzie_c_cobblepot
United States
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Member Points: 3660

JG27Pyth: I play the rather straightforward Nimzo style defense to the Panov.

1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.exd5 cxd5 4.c4 Nf6 5.Nc3 e6 6.Nf3 Bb4

29th September 2009, 06:50pm
#14
by pentagram
United Kingdom
Member Since: Jul 2009
Member Points: 154

Nice game! I remember wasting endless hours as a kid trying to find a forced win for White in this line Tongue out I may play it again in blitz after seeing this!

30th September 2009, 11:18am
#15
by Gonnosuke
Southern California Germany
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 2552
pentagram wrote:

...I remember wasting endless hours as a kid trying to find a forced win for White...


That's funny because I did the same thing as a kid with the Muzio Gambit!  I was convinced there was a hidden win somewhere....

30th September 2009, 11:23am
#16
by TheGrobe
Calgary Canada
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 4334
nuclearturkey wrote:

Looking at that game just leaves me wanting more! 


Sounds like romance isn't the only thing that's not dead.... 

30th September 2009, 02:56pm
#17
by pinkpawn97
United States
Member Since: Aug 2009
Member Points: 252

idk what the heak this is suppost 2 be!!!!!!

30th September 2009, 03:44pm
#18
by Altotemmi
Zeist Netherlands
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 13

Nice game Gonnosuke but I don't trust Rh7. What about Be6 instead? With two pieces behind I don't trust the attack then....

30th September 2009, 04:03pm
#19
by LisaV
Tenerife Canary Islands
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 776

Romance and a wet dream, all in the same game.  If that isn't incentive for the tactics trainer, I don't know what is.

30th September 2009, 11:28pm
#20
by Gonnosuke
Southern California Germany
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 2552
hackattack wrote:

...btw, just out of interest, which do you play most often in order, out of halloween gambit, kings gambit and ruy lopez? Do you switch between these openings depending on the opponents strength? Thanks

also one more thing, sorry to annoy you, but in this game you played 4.Nc3, is this better or worse than an immediate h4?


I've never played the Halloween Gambit in a game that mattered.  Ever.  It's great for thematic tournaments or to play for fun but that's about it.

I probably play the Ruy Lopez about twice as often as the King's Gambit but I rarely, if ever, take the strength of the opponent into consideration.  I've played them both against players of all strengths.

As far as 4.Nc3 goes, I play it to avoid the Kieseritsky lines which are very well known and widely studied.  In contrast, 4.Nc3 is pretty obscure and often leads to the kind of mistakes that black made here where he tried to transpose into Fischers Defense and inadvertently allowed me to play an Allgaier Gambit with an extra tempo -- very, very dangerous!

I should note that 4.Nc3 is the gateway to the Quaade Gambit (4...g4 5.Ne5), the Rosentreter Gambit Declined (4...Bg7 5.d4) and the McLeod Defense (4...Nc6) which often transposes into the Hamppe-Allgaier Gambit.

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