Why castling is sometimes dangerous

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5th January 2009, 09:27am
#1
by CaiusF
Cordoba Argentina
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 63

That's why I say that sometimes, castling can be a fatal mistake, as this can happen if you leave the King alone.

5th January 2009, 09:55am
#2
by corum
Leeds England
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 349

I'm afraid I cannot agree with you that this game demonstrates that one should not castle. Black's problems in this game have got nothing to do with the fact that he castled. In fact, after 36. Nxb7 I think I prefer black's position. Black is three pawns up and has the threat Bf5 attacking both rooks. Certainly black should not lose from this position.

What your game does demonstrate very effectively, however, is why it is important to look out for back-row mates!! Black simply needs to play g6 at some point to avoid this catastrophe.

5th January 2009, 10:14am
#3
by Azures
United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 64

Proves nothing but blck played carelessly.

 

While there are those uncommon times where castling isn't necessary, the key to using that very important move is timing...

5th January 2009, 10:16am
#4
by SirKnight56
United States
Member Since: Dec 2008
Member Points: 93

Castling is sometimes dangerous.. Definitely not because of the game you just posted though.

5th January 2009, 10:34am
#5
by xMenace
Rothesay, NB Canada
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 846

Agree with others. It was poor piece play by your opponent. 30 ... b5 and you were toast.

5th January 2009, 11:17am
#6
by JG27Pyth
NYC United States
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 1410

As has been pointed out several times, the outcome of this game had little to do with castling. Black had an easily won game and blundered it away. Moral of the story? Blitz chess isn't pretty.

5th January 2009, 05:41pm
#7
by NM tonydal
United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 4326

Yep, definitely one of the more irrelevant titles I've seen.

6th January 2009, 03:50am
#8
by askthepizzaguy
florida United States
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 1

There are definitley TIMES when it is a bad idea to castle on one side, or at all.


Generally, most games it IS safer to castle. I can give you examples of both.


Guys, if you disagree with the original poster, at least give a courteous explanation why, don't be condescending. That should be beneath you.

6th January 2009, 04:29am
#9
by BaronDerKilt
East of Omaha United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 435

White should be irretreavably lost after 17...Qxe3. Since that happened before black's mishap, maybe it is showing danger of Not castling too   :) 

The thing is, pawn takes e3 was an error because it shuts down the line of attack for black on the e-file. It is usually (almost always) better to Open lines to attack than to Close them.

It is also usually better to develop fully (or within a piece of it) before intiating any attacks, unless there is an obvious material gain to be made by proceding before that. There should not be tho, unless the opp has erred significantly already.

6th January 2009, 06:40am
#10
by e4forme
Tennessee United States
Member Since: Dec 2008
Member Points: 2315

This game is a better arguement against blitz play than against castling.

6th January 2009, 07:08am
#11
by goldendog
beertopia United States
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 2205

It's also an example of why a beginner makes a better student than a teacher.

6th January 2009, 07:08am
#12
by neb-c
Dublin City Ireland
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 2248

yes but you didn't have to do some of the last moves

6th January 2009, 09:19am
#13
by CaiusF
Cordoba Argentina
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 63

Well, if you explain me why Im wrong I will understand, please notice that Im new to the site and doesnt have too many chess experience.

Also, what's wrong with blitz chess? Is it because the ammount of time is so small that doesn't let you think a lot? I don't really see why, so, again, if someone explains me I will be grateful.

6th January 2009, 11:10am
#14
by NM tonydal
United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 4326

Very well:  Black was winning for virtually the entire game.  Castling had nothing to do with his loss, except in the trivial sense that it can make you susceptible to a back-rank mate (but only if you allow yourself to fall into it!).  Even as late as the 39th move, Black is winning comfortably if he just plays 39... g6 (thereby ridding himself permanently of the one-move-loss problem).

 

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