4-move checkmate

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17th May 2008, 12:25am
#1
by batlamaz
izmir Turkey
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 10

I don't know where to put this, sorry if it's in wrong place. I want to talk about 4-move checkmate, you know with queen and bishop. It's like in most of the games I played so far, my opponents always did it. I mean big part of them, no matter what range they are. I don't want to offend anyone, but I'm kinda tired of this kind of play. I was doing that when I first learned chess. I don't think anyone would buy it anymore.

In every new game I start, it makes feel drop the game and resign when I see that opening.  I'm really tired of this.  I want to  hear some thoughts about this, thanks  in advance.


17th May 2008, 01:53am
#2
by KevinGabbert
Salem, Oregon United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 22

I see it happen at the start of most of my games as well. It has gotten to the point where I expect it so I try to let them think that they are going to get away with it until their final move.  Frequently they don't have a plan on what to do next.

The queen will be hanging out there by that point, just waiting to be kicked around by a knight, or bishop. You can develop your side while their queen runs away.
17th May 2008, 02:41am
#3
by Nimzo33
Indiana United States
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 295

It stops occurring once you reach opponents of about 1600~. All I can say is to just get better man, sorry to say. If you think so lowly of the opening then why aren't you taking more advantage of it and raising your rating to a point where you won't see it anymore? 


17th May 2008, 04:24am
#4
by batlamaz
izmir Turkey
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 10
well nice advice, i'll do that
17th May 2008, 09:05am
#5
by JoseO
Miami, FL United States
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 97
The four move checkmate is usually based on attacks against your king's pawn (F7 on the black side, f2 on white). You need to learn how to guard this square and develop your pieces so that the attack fails and the person having not developed their pieces properly will be in trouble.
17th May 2008, 09:18am
#6
by batlamaz
izmir Turkey
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 10
Like I said before, I never bought it and probably never will. That's why I think it's useless. And to think your opponent is gonna buy it is underestimating the person. That's what I think.
3rd October 2008, 09:16pm
#7
by fzweb
Australia
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 262
Nimzo33 wrote:

It stops occurring once you reach opponents of about 1600~. All I can say is to just get better man, sorry to say. If you think so lowly of the opening then why aren't you taking more advantage of it and raising your rating to a point where you won't see it anymore? 


Not necessarily. One person was rated 1780 at the end of a game I had won. he did the Patzer's opening i.e. 1.e4 e5 2.Qh4?!

4th October 2008, 08:42am
#8
by PadawanPawn
Kansas United States
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 3

I don't get upset when I see the 'Fools Mate' attempt, I laugh.  I am not a higher rated player... but I NEVER open with that.  When I see it, I comment on it: "The Fools Mate?  Really?" - then I drop it.  If you point it out, maybe they will learn how it is the first series of moves most beginning chess players use.

I have seen the same combination tried in the middle of the game... I sort of admire a player that does that. 

I know some great players who will open with that series after they have defeated the same opponent numerous times.  In that case I think it is either intended to be an insult, or a test on just how bad their opponent realy is.

 

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