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A move I have not seen.


  • 3 years ago · Quote · #1

    knightstour

    I played a game the other day where my opponent used the petroff, and my sixth move made him think for longer than perhaps it should have done. Afterwards, I tried to find the move in an openings database, and I couldn't! So I was wondering if anyone here has come across this move before.

     

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #2

    Ray_Brooks

    From Game Explorer on this site (set to show Master games):

    movegameswhite wins / draw / black wins
    6.Bd3 7,400
    41.6% 35.3% 23.1%
    6.Be2 93
    25.8% 34.4% 39.8%
    6.c4 42
    35.7% 28.6% 35.7%
    6.h3 40
    27.5% 42.5% 30%
    6.Bf4 33
    21.2% 24.2% 54.5%
    6.Nbd2 26
    11.5% 53.8% 34.6%
    6.Be3 16
    31.3% 18.8% 50%
    6.Ne5 12
    33.3% 16.7% 50%
    6.Nc3 8
    50% 25% 25%
    6.c3 3
    33.3% 66.7%
    6.Bb5 2
    100%
    6.Qe2 2
    100%
    6.a3 1 Volokitin Alexander - Christensen Jan (2002)

     


    So, as you can clearly see, not very inspiring.
  • 3 years ago · Quote · #3

    MM78

    I haven't seen Nbd2 before either, can't see anything wrong with it, might be a bit slow but it certainly turned out well for you, your play from move 9 on was very good and a pretty finish :-) I'm not sure, particularly in the light of how play went, that Bg4 was the right idea from black since with the f3 knight protected you could in fact have been more aggressive with your white B.  Also he is not really threatening anything with it is he?  But you certainly took advantage beautifully, nice one.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #4

    broze

    Strange that, it didn't look all that bad, well played anyway man.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #5

    TheGrobe

    Wow, 13...f6 was an awful move from your opponent that allows you to set up a devastating windmill:


  • 3 years ago · Quote · #6

    fog

    awesome moves good counter attack

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #7

    Ray_Brooks

    16.... f6

    17 Qd5+ Kh8

    18 Nf7+ Kg8

    19 Nh6+ Kh8

    20 Qg8+ Rxg8

    21 Nf7#

    (Philidor's Mate)

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #8

    Escapest_Pawn

    Is this the Damiano variation?  I think black has several possibilities and 6...Bd6 is among the more successful.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #9

    GMAlwaysWin

    Ray_Brooks wrote:

    16.... f6

    17 Qd5+ Kh8

    18 Nf7+ Kg8

    19 Nh6+ Kh8

    20 Qg8+ Rxg8

    21 Nf7#

    (Philidor's Mate)


     I have only heard that being called the Smothered Mate.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #10

    Ray_Brooks

    There are many "smothered mates", this particular pattern is Philidor's mate/ Philidor's Legacy:

     

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smothered_mate

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #11

    MM78

    It's also called Philidor's Legacy GM Alwayswin

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #12

    TheGrobe

    Ray_Brooks wrote:

    16.... f6

    17 Qd5+ Kh8

    18 Nf7+ Kg8

    19 Nh6+ Kh8

    20 Qg8+ Rxg8

    21 Nf7#

    (Philidor's Mate)


    Ahh -- even better.  My miss.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #13

    knightstour

    It's called the damiano variation huh? No wonder f6 was bad. Anyway 6...Bd6 does look better, and yes, Be2 was somewhat passive, although I'm still surprised that 6.Nbd2 seems to have such little success. But then, its not very common either, so who knows? It certainly surprised my opponent.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #14

    ADK

    WOW!

    ADK

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #15

    KingStuart

    Personally I think that black should simply retreat the knight with 6...Nf6, just leaving your knight slightly misplaced with an equal position. But as we saw in your game the surprise value - getting your opponent out of book and making him/her think - must be worth something.

    Nice win.

    Stuart


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