A nice talk show with Bobby Fischer

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24th February 2008, 07:01am
#1
by SuperKnight42
Old City United States
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Just watched it.  Couldn't resist to share it with others.   

http://cavett.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/08/was-it-only-a-game/?ref=opinion

 

Enjoy!


24th February 2008, 07:18am
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by cosmin
Berlin Germany
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Nice, thanks superknight

 


24th February 2008, 07:23am
#3
by dalmatinac
Croatia
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Great! Thanks SuperKnight42
24th February 2008, 01:16pm
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by UtherPendragon
United States
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the clip was choppy but i sat through it and enjoyed it. thanks. however , iwas livid at the begining of the accompaning article with the quote of some jerk saying fischer ''''deserved death" for being antisemetic. what?! i dont agree with his opinions on this issue but he is entitled to them. just another sign of the times,be politcally correct, or else! fischer should be revered for his chess genius,and respected. nothing more  nothing less
24th February 2008, 07:15pm
#5
by hinmanhouse
Cincinnati United States
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UtherPendragon wrote: the clip was choppy but i sat through it and enjoyed it. thanks. however , iwas livid at the begining of the accompaning article with the quote of some jerk saying fischer ''''deserved death" for being antisemetic. what?! i dont agree with his opinions on this issue but he is entitled to them. just another sign of the times,be politcally correct, or else! fischer should be revered for his chess genius,and respected. nothing more  nothing less Abhoring antisemetism is not "politically correct".  You sound like someone who longs for the good old days when one could say that they wished for the mass killing of Jews (which Fischer did, on the record) and not be burdened with any pesky moralizing on the subject. 

 


24th February 2008, 08:05pm
#6
by UtherPendragon
United States
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in response to "hinmanhouse":  i do not long for the good old days as you say for the mass killing of jews because i dont think fischer deserved death for his bigotry. iam a newyorker and fischer supported the 9/11 attacks or so he said. i dont hate him for that,more like pitty,because he became bitter and deranged. i personally never took his coments seriously he was mentally ill obviously at that point.perhaps,"politically correct" was not the correct choice  of words,but abhoaring antisemetism[which i do] and saying the man deserved death for a warped unenlightened view point are two entirely differnt things.
24th February 2008, 08:14pm
#7
by SuperKnight42
Old City United States
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I agree with UtherPendragon. 

Fischer had been isolated from the normal people's world for a long time.  I don't think he was really mature in the real world.  He probably didn't care what he said.  I am not saying that he was innocent.  But our chess players love the Bobby Fischer who had the great achievement in his chess career. 


24th February 2008, 08:53pm
#8
by lulubell83
California United States
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Thanks for sharing.
2nd July 2009, 09:04pm
#9
by Artemi
Imus, Cavite Philippines
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 132

I think Bobby's anti-semitism is deeply rooted from early childhood. He is abandoned by his father which he think is of Jewish origin. It is some sort of generalising that the Jewish race is evil and creates all the problems we encounter in our world. This becomes apparent when he stopped playing competitive chess and spent his time reading anti- semitic works. It's a bursting forth of all his anger to his father. I feel it's really very deep! We have to understand what he's gone through during his childhood. Caissa save his life and sanity! And that situation gave the chessworld the greatest genius the world had ever seen! Maybe Garry is the highest rated in terms of ELO rating but I think there is more to chess than ELO rating. Until now I am really amazed how he can beat Bent Larsen with a 6-0 score considering that Bent Larsen is at his peak during that time! Bobby is like a child in non-chess matters! Pure and innocent! Just enjoy playing his brilliant games!!!!!

2nd July 2009, 09:19pm
#10
by goldendog
beertopia United States
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 2843

He also wasn't so fond of blacks. If he was mentally ill he was mentally ill, but sometimes people just choose to do wrong.

2nd July 2009, 09:30pm
#11
by Rael
Calgary Canada
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 5084

Ah so people crawl out and decide to judge someone no longer here, cute, you psychoanalysts and (sheesh) social workers.

I wish you'd had the opportunity to tell such things to Bobby to his face (you wouldn't dare).

Nothing comes from either condemnations or excuses, from anger or zealotry, from "balanced" comments or inflammatory ones.

Fischer was who he was.

You do him no favours to "explain" him away with ideas that he was mentally ill - he wasn't.

He said what he said - you are either comfortable with it or not, I suppose. Don't think you're doing him favours to say "well he went mad" or "I like the chess player, not the man" - grow up.

Humans exist with radical opinions. I know that's hard to handle, but please.

Yes, Fischer was cocky, yes he was arrogant, and you know what? Not an argument against the man. A plus, as far as I'm concerned.

And I'll defend him against soft-headed "social workers" till the sun goes down...

 

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