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8th June 2008, 03:00am
#1
by Azoth
Ecatepec Estado de Mexico Mexico
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 347

I was looking at the player list of members and there are around 4800 accounts of 1200 ranking i would venture to say that at least 80% of them have 1 lost game and remain inactive (also sound fishy) , that give us 3840 user accounts that the only thing they do its pull down the avrg. ranking of the site [that without taking in consideration the huge amount of accounts that have 1 lost game that did counted for ranking system (even more fishy)].

so i was thinking that it would be good for the site to clear out this accounts. I know it would be hard to make the criteria for this. but anyway it's only a suggestion.


8th June 2008, 03:14am
#2
by mikii
bijeljina Bosnia-Herzegovina
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 858
Azoth wrote:

I was looking at the player list of members and there are around 4800 accounts of 1200 ranking i would venture to say that at least 80% of them have 1 lost game and remain inactive (also sound fishy) , that give us 3840 user accounts that the only thing they do its pull down the avrg. ranking of the site [that without taking in consideration the huge amount of accounts that have 1 lost game that did counted for ranking system (even more fishy)].

so i was thinking that it would be good for the site to clear out this accounts. I know it would be hard to make the criteria for this. but anyway it's only a suggestion.


 thats a great idea.i played 15 greater games and just two finished till end.

There are just fool around here.its a little bit annoying. 


8th June 2008, 03:27am
#3
by Azoth
Ecatepec Estado de Mexico Mexico
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 347

I was thinking that may work for the criteria could be:

If ( the account have never been premium & it remain 6 months inactive ) it get deleted


8th June 2008, 06:22am
#4
by Zhane
Mexico City Mexico
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 7339
Great idea Azoth
8th June 2008, 07:24am
#5
by Pistoleer
Ireland
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 479

Good idea. Im not sure what numbers go to make what averages however.. take the average number of moves fer example... "51"... that seems very high. Ive played 280 games here and my average number of moves is just under half that.. at 25.

Taking the average moves of the posters in this thread as an example...anda couple of mates im playing who have a 2-2200 rating.  moves/games

Pistol 25/ 280

Zhane 24/442

Azoth 27/83

Miki 40/88

PerfectGent 27/177

Aristeidis9 32/320

Rael 24/620  (:p ok i know ye donnae have a 2200 rating but ye do have loads of games under yer belt heh)

This is just a pretty random sample. Average is 28 moves. A far cry from 51.

What im trying to say in a terrible blunderin fashion is that the average rating shown may not simply be all the accounts rating added up and divided.. (may be though heh)

I also remember (i think) Erik saying something about accounts needed x games played (20 i think?) before their rating "counted". If so id guess many "empty" accounts may not have completed that many games and thus already wont be counted?


8th June 2008, 07:56am
#6
by MM78
Ireland
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 3113
Pistoleer wrote:

Good idea. Im not sure what numbers go to make what averages however.. take the average number of moves fer example... "51"... that seems very high. Ive played 280 games here and my average number of moves is just under half that.. at 25.

Taking the average moves of the posters in this thread as an example...anda couple of mates im playing who have a 2-2200 rating.  moves/games

Pistol 25/ 280

Zhane 24/442

Azoth 27/83

Miki 40/88

PerfectGent 27/177

Aristeidis9 32/320

Rael 24/620  (:p ok i know ye donnae have a 2200 rating but ye do have loads of games under yer belt heh)

This is just a pretty random sample. Average is 28 moves. A far cry from 51.

What im trying to say in a terrible blunderin fashion is that the average rating shown may not simply be all the accounts rating added up and divided.. (may be though heh)

I also remember (i think) Erik saying something about accounts needed x games played (20 i think?) before their rating "counted". If so id guess many "empty" accounts may not have completed that many games and thus already wont be counted?


do you think perhaps the average move number would be the total moves in the game for both players summed?  In other words say 25.5 moves each. My own is 32, I would expect the higher rated players to be a bit higher in average move per game.


8th June 2008, 07:59am
#7
by Pistoleer
Ireland
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 479
MM78 wrote:

do you think perhaps the average move number would be the total moves in the game for both players summed?  In other words say 25.5 moves each.


 Aha MM78 is living proof that not all Irishmen are stupid! ;) Thats almost certainly what it is cheers mate.


8th June 2008, 08:11am
#8
by carpman
United States
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 114
I agree that deleting accounts that are inactive for a period of time, say six months, would be a way to clear the board so to speak. I doubt many would complain.
8th June 2008, 08:30am
#9
by Azoth
Ecatepec Estado de Mexico Mexico
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 347
MM78 wrote:

... My own is 32, I would expect the higher rated players to be a bit higher in average move per game.


 I'm not completely agree with that, i think the higher the ranking the better you know when a position its hopeless therefore when to surender, on the other hand ppl with lower rank tend to play their games till checkmate resulting in a higher numer of moves per game. but anyway that's off topic.


13th February 2009, 07:59pm
#10
by AngeloM
Veracruz, Veracruz Mexico
Member Since: Feb 2009
Member Points: 424

Great idea. Delete all accounts that have been inactive for more than 6 months... and I would add putting on hold those who have been inactive for more than 3 months, so that they wouldn't count for the average rating of the site and only if the player logs in the account becomes fully functional again.

13th February 2009, 08:15pm
#11
by ADK
Santa Clarita, CA United States
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 16363
Azoth wrote:

I was thinking that may work for the criteria could be:

If ( the account have never been premium & it remain 6 months inactive ) it get deleted


What would happen if: 1 day, they decide to return after that amount of time? Shouldn't chess.com at least store all their information somewhere? Now, after 1 year of being inactive, then chess.com can safely assume that they will never return. Other than that, this is a great idea!

ADK

13th February 2009, 08:16pm
#12
by chAmPheSs
Mississauga Canada
Member Since: Feb 2009
Member Points: 86

I guess it's a good idea, but how will we clear out all those accounts?

13th February 2009, 08:57pm
#13
by sebas4life
utrecht Netherlands
Member Since: Dec 2008
Member Points: 327

kill the accounts after 3 months (inactive users, non premiums) If they come back after three months they could get their games back with buying a premium membership. Or a one time payment to get your games back

13th February 2009, 09:04pm
#14
by goldendog
beertopia United States
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 2244

I never have played a game here but enjoy posting. Should my account be cleared?

13th February 2009, 09:40pm
#15
by Azoth
Ecatepec Estado de Mexico Mexico
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 347

@goldendog:

we are  talking of inactive acounts it's easy to keep a record of how many times per day certain user have loged in even from what IP they made each one, It's also posible to track all the users who haven't loged on their accounts at all.

14th February 2009, 05:57am
#16
by Spiffe
Orlando, FL United States
Member Since: Sep 2008
Member Points: 946

What's the difference?  I could see the staff making a policy that inactive accounts are removed after X period of time for database maintenance purposes, but how does it affect the other players at all?  Who cares about the site average rating?

 

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