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5th April 2008, 09:02am
#1
by calvinhobbesliker
a 2 story house in San Jose, California United States
Member Since: Dec 2007
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i heard that erik has devised up aanti-cheating methods. what exactly are they?

5th April 2008, 09:26am
#2
by Jasn
Sausalito, CA United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 151

For obvious reasons, I don't think they'll be described exactly. But in general, the most effective means to testing for cheats is to suspect games through a suite of programs generally available to the public, such as Chessmaster, Fritz, Shredder, etc. If one of these programs makes moves that largely coincide with those made by the player, that's a red flag.

Of course, a cheater could try to disguise computer use by making occasional moves on their own, but still an overall picture would emerge. 


7th April 2008, 07:13pm
#3
by calvinhobbesliker
a 2 story house in San Jose, California United States
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 1334
what if they're just a really really good player, and then they get banned?
7th April 2008, 07:20pm
#4
by Jasn
Sausalito, CA United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 151
I'm sure there would be grounds for appeal. If someone was a superb enough player to subconsciously mirror a chess computer, it would be time for them to make an appearance at a local chess club, where such unusual talent could surely be evaluated and appreciated.
7th April 2008, 07:24pm
#5
by kponds
Memphis United States
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 38

A competing site has a similar cheat detection system and supposedly it works really well.  There has been some drama over it, but supposedly not even grandmaster games match the engine more than 85% or so, so it is somewhat easy (over a large sample size of games) to catch cheaters.

 

Of course, the key to the whole process is that there has to be a unbiased and knowledgable board of review. 


7th April 2008, 07:25pm
#6
by Baseballfan
Durham, North Carolina United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 899
calvinhobbesliker wrote: what if they're just a really really good player, and then they get banned?

 Also, computers tend to play vastly different from humans. Computers are near perfect tactically, but they lack on the strategy aspects of the game. Also, computers are obviously devoid of any real creativity. The best human chess players incorporate strategy and creativity into their games, so the likelyhood that a human and a computer would make a lot of the same moves outside of obvious moves and openings is very very slim.


 

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