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Any others with high IQ suck at chess.


  • 14 months ago · #101

    AlCzervik

    ^ Does Andy have a new avatar?!?

  • 14 months ago · #102

    SonofaBishop67

    Estragon wrote:

    There's no direct correlation - as a commenter on the 1st page said, there are probably more intelligent than unintelligent players.  But while I've know some very brilliant people who were strong players, I've also known a few strong players who, having had a conversation with them, I was surprised they even played.

    Lol! Well said! I have met both sorts as well :D Reminds me of Nimzowitsch's outburst: "Why must I lose to this idiot?" (Which is not to say that his opponent was actually an idiot). 

    I have often wondered about the correlation between chess playing ability and IQ myself. It is easy to associate a healthy ego with a large score in either of the categories; I believe we often read too much (or completely misread) into numerical quantificiations of non mathematical phenomena. A talented chess player does not necessarily have to have even above average intelligence to perform well at this game, just as a Honors degree in Physics is no guarantee of Chess aptitude.

    Intelligence is an funny thing. There met people whose elevators don't quite make it to the top floor who are still capable of profound understanding of natural things that baffle even the wisest of men. There are geniuses of great reknown who forget to put their pants on when they leave the house.

    In short, I quit worrying about my IQ, rating, and all that jazz, and I put more effort into enjoying the game for its worth. :)

  • 14 months ago · #103

    AndyClifton

    TMIMITW wrote:

    ^ Does Andy have a new avatar?!?

    lol...if I ever do change, it will be to that. Smile

  • 14 months ago · #104

    AndyClifton

    fyy0r wrote:

    I will state only truth

     

    Oh good, that will make things a lot easier on us then.

  • 14 months ago · #105

    George1st

    fyy0r wrote:

    I will state only truth

    - The simple fact that you can study for an IQ test devalues it as a measurement of natural intelligence

    - Bobby Fischer did not have an IQ of 180

    - Garry Kasparov does not have an IQ of 190

    - Chess skill is not an indication of intelligence, it is an indication of chess skill.  It is fun to think being good at chess makes you smart, and have others think so as well, but there's no truth to this.

    - Hard work and going down the right path with a trainer/coach will get you much further than any sort of natural intelligence will.  Alekhine taught us this in his match vs Capablanca, and Laszlo Polgar taught us this by raising 3 daughters to be world class chess players.

     

    Have a great day

    Agreed. You have a good one also mate....: )

  • 14 months ago · #107

    AndyClifton

    You cannot find a good IQ test.

  • 14 months ago · #108

    waffllemaster

    Well, you can study for an IQ test, but it only helps the score a little... you're not going to score an extra 15 points or anything.

  • 14 months ago · #109

    AndyClifton

    So that's supposed to make the notion sound?!...lol

  • 14 months ago · #110

    waffllemaster

    No, the whole idea is silliness :p  Not only IQ to chess relation but a test purportedly measuring intelligence itself Smile

  • 14 months ago · #111

    AndyClifton

    Yes, presumably the measurers would have to be the biggest geniuses of all! Laughing

  • 14 months ago · #112

    Michael-G

    It is true that chess skill and intelligence are 2 different things.

    Chess skill is chess skill.It has to do with a lot of random facts.The most important are:

    1)Where did you born.

    2)How much money your parents have.  

    Kasparov wouldn't be Kasparov if he was born in Somalia from very poor parents.Kasparov is Kasparov because he started play chess at 3 , having the best trainers , a ton of books  and no need to work even one hour in his whole life.

        True , others had the same chance and Kasparov is only one but can anyone say that it is because he was the most intelligent?When he lost from Kramnik he was less intelligent than him?

        Chess , like it or not , is a sport.And as a sport the result is defined by a lot of outside  and "inside" factors.The most important quality of any Great chessplayer is his personality.The ability to stay calm no matter what happens in or out of the board .

        How many of us lost a game because we were dissapointed from a bad move weplayed and mistakes start to come one after another?How many times we couldn't play next day because of a bad defeat on a previous round.

       A tournament and a chess game is a hard psychology test drive.You need to stay untouched  by everything , totally calm and ready to find the best move even if your mother died. 

         That is why some really great players (like Efim Geller or Vassily Ivanchuk) never manage to be World Champions.Certainly not because they were less intelligent.

  • 14 months ago · #113

    ithomson

    Any others suck at chess.. period?

  • 14 months ago · #114

    AndyClifton

    Everybody sucks at chess. Smile

  • 14 months ago · #115

    AlCzervik

    Except the Chess Champion. He was too good for this site.

  • 14 months ago · #116

    AlCzervik

    Now we don't know where he is.

  • 14 months ago · #117

    zborg

    Michael-G wrote:

    1)Where did you born.

    2)How much money your parents have.  

    Your two most important choices in life --

    • What country are you born in? 
    • Who do you choose for your parents?

    Choose poorly and you're screwed.  

  • 14 months ago · #118

    ZlatkoDrazenovic

    I am tucked comfortably on the left tail of both bell curves.

  • 14 months ago · #119

    AnthonyCG

    losingmove wrote:

    I know a woman with an IQ of two hundred and forty...but she can't change a car tyre...experts are baffled...

    Einstein couldn't tie his own shoes.

  • 14 months ago · #120

    AndyClifton

    Which was why he invented velcro.


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