Math no problem, chemistry easy as PI. Chess not so much. I mean, what is the deal? I've been playing for 15 years and suck! My teenager made expert in a two years. Maybe that test was flawed or IQ and chess are not as related as one might think.

I don't think there is any correlation.

Being good at math means you're good at math.

Being good at chess means you're good at chess.

Too many people go into either just because they think it's a "smart" thing to do... And I don't think that you can learn either in the same ways either.

it's just hard to separate the success i've had in other endeavors and the shortcomings i've had in chess.

1847 isn't bad.

IQ is a complete load of nonsense.

Well, they're just different monsters and one has to be tamed differently than the other. I reckon your results in race car driving and baseball may also differ.

Maybe you should compare training regimens with your teen.

[Edit:] Check this out

Suck is a relative term; I would be ecstatic with an 1800+ rating.  

I used to think that I was intelligent, but my "underperforming" son kicks my butt.  I have decided that it depends on how your mind works-spacial relationships versus linear thinking, etc.  

Cool video, Anthony. Thanks! Very helpful to someone like me that sucks at chess AND has a low IQ!

Count, I bet you also have one very strong hand/arm while the other is only used to move chess pieces.

Oh please... The fact that it's standardized is enough to deem it inaccurate.

This quote would be good for any thread throughout the forums.  

Clearly no mincing of words.  Crisp and to the point.  A great "summing up," indeed.

Ha! hahahaha!

The prentious air of this thread was brought to a comedic ending. Thank you. 

2 years ago I was actually presented with an envelope from former Prime Minister of Australia congratulating me on my involement and placing in Australia's largest ever IQ test. Out of 356,012 people aged between 16-65, I came 19th. Only the top 20 were sent this message -------------->

"On behalf of all Australians, we commend you and your ability"

That was it............lol

And yes, I totally suck at chess, infact, I find it quite difficult to find an opponent that can lose against me...lol

...and a full head of hair.

actually, there was some study done and it didn't find any significant correlation between chess ability and iq scores. probably because chess mainly only involves spatial/visual analytical abilities, every part of the game is filtered through this, and iq tests are what they came up with to very generally give an approximate estimate of someone's overall intelligence, in all areas. and I think most of those tests are flawed in some way or another and aren't completely accurate, the best they can do is give a general estimate.

Albert Einstein tried to play chess but was hopeless at it.

but I also think, most people with high intelligence will be at least decent chess players if they put a bit of time into it, but not everyone with high intelligence is going to be able to become a super gm with a 2700 fide rating, I think those people actually do have incredible spatial/visual analysis abilities, something rare that most people don't possess, just like some people have incredible voices, most people can learn to sing decently if they put some time into it, but not everyone is going to be a whitney houston.

he wasn't hopeless. he was a decent player. but it didn't interest him really and he even disliked it because of its obvious similiarity to war.

I meant hopeless relative to his exploits in other areas.