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Arena 3 and Houdini 1.5


  • 23 months ago · Quote · #1

    Bittrsweet

    I downloaded these two softwares yesterday because i heard that houdini was a very strong chess engine (and free) and Arena 3 because i needed it to use Houdini. However, after dowloading, I realized that there were two Houdinis: Houdini_15a_x64 and Houdini_15a_w32. Which brings me to my first question:

    Are they the same, different, or two parts of the same engine?

    Currently I have 1 loaded as engine 1 and the other loaded as engine 2, and, while it works, I want to make sure I have the best possible set up.

    Next up, it displays depth of the search as some type of fraction, '25/52' for example. As someone who is used to thinking of depth in moves or half-moves, what does this fraction mean?

    Thanks for the time and help

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #2

    Metaknight251

    I think the 25/52 means that it is on the 25th move out of 52 in the given position.  I'm not 100% sure on that though. 

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #3

    DaBigOne

    I'm not sure about the second q, but the 1st q I know!

     

    OK, it means the 32 one is for standard pcs, desktops/laptops

    The 64 one is for multi-core processors, basically a computer with two seperate processors to do the tasks, making it  30% fastter then normal, at least according to the website.

    I'm not sure what computer you have, but if you have a standard pc, i dont think it will let you load the 64 one, at least thats what happened to me.

    Just so you know, I know Houdini is strong but I dont like its positional style, it plays moves that are safe, but Rybka is more "aggresive", it is best to use 2-3 engines for a more rounded view of analysis.

    you already have houdini, so you can get rybka 2 for free, or buy version 4

    The last one, maybe stockfish, although it isn't that strong. 

    Maybe Fritz, Junior, HIARCS, etc. if you want to spend a little money.

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #4

    Bittrsweet

    Thanks for the help

    If anyone can explain the search depth question that would be great :D

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #5

    goatt23

    Metaknight251 wrote:

    I think the 25/52 means that it is on the 25th move out of 52 in the given position.  I'm not 100% sure on that though. 

    I believe Metaknight is correct.  I have Fritz 13 and it shows that as 'depth'.

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #6

    EscherehcsE

    1st question - They are two different engines. The Houdini_15a_w32 engine is one compiled for 32-bit operating systems, while the Houdini_15a_x64 engine is compiled for 64-bit operating systems. Both will run on a 64-bit OS, but only the Houdini_15a_w32 engine will run on a 32-bit OS. On a 64-bit OS, you'll usually get a little better performance from the x64 engine.

    2nd question - There are actually 2 windows with similar looking output. The window displaying something like "Depth 17/39" is telling you that the engine is searching to a depth of 17 plies (half-moves), with some search extensions reaching as far as 39 plies. There's a window just to the right that displays something like "c7-c5 (3/35)". This window is the one that tells you the engine is currently evaluating move c7-c5, which is the third move in a list of 35 legal moves.

    Hope that helps!

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #7

    Bittrsweet

    Yes, that helps out alot!

     

    Thank You

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #8

    MarkChess2012

    If I'm not mistaken, if your PC is running Windows 7, then your PC is a 64 bit machine.

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #9

    EscherehcsE

    Well, Microsoft does make 32-bit versions of Windows 7 for PCs that have 32-bit CPUs.


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