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In Checkmate Tactics by Garry Kasparov, the author pretty much states that chess is 99% tacitcs, which is a well known phrase that originated from German chess master Richard Teichmann. Whether you believe that chess is 99% tactics or not, I found Kasparov’s notion that a player can have a world ranking in the top 1000 without any great understanding of strategy to be astounding. You gotta be kidding me!
"When social players play, something approaching 100% of all games are decided tactically. At a decent club level standard, I would suggest that at least 90-95% of games are decided primarily for tactical reasons. You need to get up to strong county or even international standard before players can really outplay each other in a strategic sense."
What do you think about this statement below regarding the top 1000 and strategy?
"Some players become very strong indeed and can achieve ratings that place them in the top 1,000 in the world without any great understanding of the strategic niceties of the game. How is this possible? They are very good indeed at tactics. On the other hand, players who have an excellent strategic understanding but poor tactical skills will never achieve anywhere near this standard. Grand strategic vision counts for very little if you keep losing your pieces."
What is tactics?
“The nitty-gritty hand-to-hand fighting. It’s the stuff that players are trying to work out when they say to themselves, ‘If I go there and he goes there…and then I take his pawn…now, what can he do next…etc.”
What is strategy?
“It is the understanding of what you (and your opponent) are trying to achieve in the medium and longer term. It involves such elements as planning, an understanding of pawn stucture and an appreciation of weak and strong squares.”
- Checkmate Tactics by Garry Kasparov, excerpts from the Introduction.
talented performers often do not make great teachers. ppl with talent (assuming for argument that talent exists, altho' many hv argued otherwise here) often cannot explain their talent or gut-feel or intuition or whatever u call it. often it takes an external observer to try to make a model out of that person and then teach others by applying that model (missing many details in the process but still doing a great job overall).
ok i just got lost wat i was trying to say ...
People who argue otherwise are idiots.
yes but talented idiots ...
Talented at being idiots.
You're one of the talents I mentioned. Follow Prawn.
Look at how good computers fare without positional consideration. I don't know if they'd make top 1000, but they would most likely beat most players here. There are probably engines available to play online that play without positional consideration and deep tactics.
Of course, bear in mind who's saying this. Doubtful if Karpov or Petrosian would ever try to make that point...
To be a player in the Top 1000 in the world, one needs a FIDE rating of about 2495, i.e. about base grandmaster strength.
Can someone achieve this level with very powerful tactical play and not such deep strategy? If the player has excellent opening preparation, I would say that this is possible.
Perhaps it's not a fair comparison, but Houdini has reached a level of 3300 without any deep strategical understanding, only really tactics.
The reason I say this is because 'strategy' isn't something which exists in an objective sense in chess - theoretically the game could be solved brute-force by a computer with infinite processing power. Rather, 'strategy' is a subjective concept invoked by humans, to help our human-like minds find better moves. In other words, it's a means to an end. So if you can achieve the same end (playing good moves) by some other means, then all well and good.
Houdini has reached a level of 3300 without any deep strategical understanding, only really tactics.
Interesting topic, thanks Musikamole
I think deep positional understanding is necessary when we speak about SOME GMs games. Because even when two GMs are battling on the board, many games are won/lost thanks to/because of a tactical idea. Besides, many, too many games, are won when a player makes NORMAL, but CORRECT moves, and transforms his positional advantage (development/space control) into a tactical one. Because you won't win a game by simply placing your pieces in good squares, you need to REACT and to ATTACK. I am not really an expert, but this is what I think about the whole subject.
I didn't say no positional knowledge. I said no real strategical understanding. There's a difference. The latter is a human characteristic.
I don't know of strong tactical amateur players who don't have the basics of strategy at the same time. I mean, you won't find many people just calculating on every move without some guiding strategical principles at least helping them with the candidate moves selection process.
Now, do you make the difference more easily on tactical skills than on strategical skills, certainly the former. But strategical skills help you get positions where your tactical skills can express themselves.
And make no mistake, nobody plays like a computer (even a weak one) at amateur level.
To people thinking tactics is everything in chess, I recommend looking at games played between professional and amateurs in open tournaments (say +2400 vs. -2200). Sure, you'll see some tactical shots, but most of the time, you'll see someone building a very strong position and crunching from here on.
A player with a 2000 rating can make a move they see is tactical, but to my 1600 rating brain it looks strategic. If I make a move I think is tactical, a 1200 may view it as strategic. The difference sometimes is just how deeply a player can calculate.
My experience has been my greatest gains come after focusing on solving puzzles and studying tactics.
This is all well and good, but please, what is the meaning of strategic position? I'm dying to know this.
I wait to your answer.
Disagree. I don't think the main difference between 1600 and 2000 (or 2000 and 2400) is calculation depth. I know 1600s who calculate at least as well as me. The main difference is understanding of the game.
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