Blake's Tygers of wrath and chess??

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19th May 2008, 01:42am
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by Acephalic
San Francisco United States
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 "The tygers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction" 

 

William Blake 

 

 

 

Best,

 Acephalic 


19th May 2008, 02:41am
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by zombywoof
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that must be because the tyger is planning to eat that horse of instruction.....  I kind of empathize......  I have been getting my horses eaten by pawns, bishops, rooks, queens, and yes...... even by other horses......perhaps I would fare better with the instruction of a ho instead....... the way I keep missing moves.....all I seem to be doing is screwing myself!   
19th May 2008, 10:32am
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by Acephalic
San Francisco United States
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We need to update the update the chess board to include the tiger who could just go off in anyway he wants- he gets something like 4 moves. 
23rd September 2008, 03:12am
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by dopamine
Australia
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Our wise & wild tygers were hunted into extinction and a good many of our horses of instruction seemed to have galloped off over the horizon!

23rd September 2008, 04:33am
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by artfizz
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Acephalic wrote:

 

 "The tygers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction" William Blake 

 


Tell this Blake guy - the next time you see him - that chess.com doesn't support chess variants, AND he should use the Spell Checker!

14th October 2008, 12:12pm
#6
by promotedpawn
Somewhere out there Great Britain
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Someone seriously has to learn to SPELL! ITS TIGER NOT TYGER!

15th October 2008, 05:11am
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by Acephalic
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Perhaps Tyger was his fancy way of spelling his opening that was refuted by the Knight move? 

15th October 2008, 05:42am
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by artfizz
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Blake wrote: What immortal hand or eye Could frame thy fearful symmetry? 
Acephalic wrote: Perhaps Tyger was his fancy way of spelling his opening that was refuted by the Knight move? 

Did Blake have 'solving chess' in mind when he wrote The Tyger?

4th November 2008, 02:54pm
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by MartyRheemer
Melbourne Australia
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haha, william's worked claimed that imagination was the soul of god.  So thats chess related regardless.

http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/21177   - Gorge your selfs.

"The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom." —William Blake

4th November 2008, 03:43pm
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by D_Blackwell
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English evolves.  Spill chuckers aren't perfect:))

From Blake's "The Marriage of Heaven and Hell". Section: "Proverbs of Hell"

The tygers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction.
Expect poison from the standing water.
You never know what is enough unless you know what is more than enough.
Listen to the fools reproach! it is a kingly title!

There are varying presentations:

The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom;
The tigers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction;
One law for the lion and ox is oppression.

Another:

The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom.
He who desires but acts not, breeds pestilence.
Prisons are built with stones of Law, Brothels with bricks of Religion.
The tygers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction.
Exuberance is Beauty.
Sooner murder an infant in its cradle than nurse unacted desires.

I like Blake, but can't claim expertise.  Much of his writing can be applied to chess however.

25th November 2008, 02:44pm
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by Acephalic
San Francisco United States
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Hey sorry I overlooked your comments and I am no expert on Blake or really anything for that matter.

 

I started to study openings when I came to chess.com and started to study chess openings. The book moves seem unnatural -  robotic  & horsey-like and my play suffered. A horse would be a step up for me but I hope to absorb these opening concepts so the Tyger can l finally begin to leave his mark.

 

Chess is instructive on so many levels - philosphical, artistic, poetic, psycholocal?

 

I read recently about an oedipal relation ?

 

A loss is only a loss if you see it that way.

 

Also a rumination on death?

 

Just some blabbering thoughts

 

Best

26th November 2008, 09:37am
#12
by ILLYRIA
Calif United States
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Acephalic wrote:

Just some blabbering thoughts


 Blake twas mine favrit of all thyne Romantic poets 'o yore.

Wordsworth I find complex sans soul and yea in truth a bore.

 

Blake's proverbs of hell are great at overturning common "wisdom" and pointing out the stifling nature of heavy Christianity.  He pushes us to recognize how there is useful energy in hell where the forges are active and that our best nature is heated with similar intensity, aligned with the qualities of both angels and demons.

As for what this says about chess, I don't know.   I have noticed that when I just focus on development alone, the opponent has an easier time grabbing the initiative.   Maybe the Tyger swipes over the board, not content with cold developing moves but leaping across to grapple the opponent to the ground from the outset, making whatever moves required to engage and force the other to react, then developing one's army as a natural outgrowth of that drive.  Mayhaps Blake wouldn't like those openings where the armies just hang back and ignore each other as they bring out their forces in an orderly, isolated march lacking sting and snarl.

 

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