I wonder, why do people play boring chess?
Is it fun to just sit and wait for the opponent to do mistakes?
I love chess, but I hate boring games...
What can you do when you play against a really boring player? (profylaxe)
-Go for a deadly attack.... It often fails cause a boring player knows his defence and a bold attack is just what he wants.
-Play boring yourself.... often fails too, cause when you love tactics, boring play just makes your brain go to sleep and your opponent find some easy tactics.
-Play safe and be happy with a draw...
Thes solution would be to play like: Kasparov, Carlsen and Topalov, but Kramnik did beat Kasparov with the really boring Berliner defence, Leko is still making money on boring chess...
Anny tips would make my day :)
I only got halfway through your post before I got too bored to continue.
I guess you are one of them then...
If the game is boring for you, try complicating it. Sacrifice a piece, or several pawns.
pskogli of Norway did not play a single game this year.
Pskogli four (4) games in July that lasted only - get this - ONE (1) MOVE and four (4) games that timed out without a single move being played.
-Go for a deadly attack.... It often fails ...
-Play boring yourself.... often fails too...
It sounds like you're grumbling because you can't beat a solid positional player. I guess the best tip would be to study some positional strategy and learn how to beat it. Positional chess may be slower but there is a lot of tension and depth in it.
I see your point, but that's not what makes many opponents boring to play against, draw is 0 points in my book, but many players seems to love the half point, they do very little to try to make anny imbalances in the position.
-And a position without imbalances is a dead draw, I love good positional play and endgames, but not players who is afraid of imbalances.
It's not only me who is complayning, a well known norvegian grandmaster faced a not that known norvegian FM, the FM did his best to get rid off anny chances for play even though he was playing with the white pices.
-The strategi did work, the FM got his draw.
So back to my question, what to do with people that love boring chess?
Iv've been playing blitz (at http://www.chessclub.com known as ICC) and real life (over the board) chess, the national championchip in Bergen and some other small tournaments.
Maybee I'm starting some slow games again, but I don't take that part to serious.
I have done that many times, it's really fun when it pays off, but it does "stink big time" when it fails and the boring part makes his day...
Is it only me who keeps facing boring opponents?
Maybee I'm a "tactic freak" that need much more action in a game than others.
I do love winning slow positional games, deep calculation's makes me feel great :)
I don't like drawing either but I'll take a draw over a loss. I'll usually work toward some type of imbalance but if things start going badly I'll try steer toward a draw rather than take a loss.
In your example of a GM and FM, the FM was an underdog. He was expected to lose. By working toward a draw against a GM from the beginning he probably improved his ratings.
Pure tactics is like action movies with special effects and explosions. Positional play is like suspense thrillers where the tension slowly builds to a climax (or somebody's nerves give out). A chess game can be either or any combination of both. It's all good and everybody has their preference.
I agree with you, and has allways been, but somehow I don't think I've managed to explain what I mean.
Positional or tactical it's not the point, I love both, the boring part is when you cant find anny imbalances that works for you... Of course it's partly my own foult if I let my opponent kill all hope for a good fight (positionla/tactical)
I don't cry over a lost game, I know that I'm not the best player in the world, but in my mind chess is a war game, it should be a real fight "kill the king" :)
-I'm just wondering, what is the best "solution" ??
I'm not sure I can help you there. I'm sure everyone, regardless of their level, reaches positions where they just don't know what to do. A sacrifice to create some play usually livens things up, but not always for the better. Sometimes you just pick a spot that "feels" right and make a play there without analyzing all the lines to see if each and every one is good. There's nothing like walking a tightrope in the dark without a net for spicing up a game. :D
In making tactical dispositions, the highest pitch you can attain is to conceal them. - Sun Tzu
Thanks! I'll sleep on it, and try it in my next "boring" game :)
Players like me, way under 2000, need fun to stay motivated, I dont find much joy in remembering long opening lines, I hate using them even when they works.
I find most fun when I have a clear plan, and my opponent knows it, he defends, the game goes from side to side, new plans comes to our minds and nothing else matters, just us and the board.
Whos winnig doesent matter that much, the feeling "I played some good chess" is what I love :)
Sounds like you might enjoy 960 chess. Ever tried it?
No, but I like the idea, wasn't it Ficher who invented it?
Somehow I dont feel bad for the opening part annymore, no I haven't been studying :) but I've found that good positional play and long calculations works fine :)
If you do that for the sake of being complicated, that's where really unsound moves come from. People like kasparov can do that stuff sometimes, but you have to be very careful about that. Anyways, to the op, what exactly do you find boring in games you consider boring? Is it positional chess or just playing for a draw?
With boring I mean when my opponent doesent try his best to win the game, he just waits for me to do mistakes, and if he can exchange a pice, he does, happyli down to an endgame that gives nothing to anny of us.
If thats not boring, what is? I have been meeting this even from players ranked way higer than me. Sometimes they even tells me that they felt it was an exiting game!!
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