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CARLSEN-ANAND WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP DEBATE THREAD


  • 3 weeks ago · Quote · #301

    chessman1504

    IdiotBoxGuy wrote:
    ab121705 wrote:

    anand has no chance. past his prime while carlsen is just reaching his

    Nope. Mark my words, Anand will win.

    History seems to indicate otherwise. Anand still has yet to beat Carlsen in a classical game since 2010. Carlsen, however, has managed to win five games since that time. Carlsen is also still world number 1 and has a huge gap between his rating and Anand's rating. I expect Anand to win at least one game, but the match still seems out of reach for him.

  • 3 weeks ago · Quote · #302

    chessfan999

    I think that Anand showed this year that he might be a huge threat to Carlsen because Anand had won the candidates tournament much easier than Carlsen did. But i can't judge, all i can say is that Anand might give Carlsen a good fight. 

  • 3 weeks ago · Quote · #303

    DarknisMetalDragon

    chessman1504 wrote:
    IdiotBoxGuy wrote:
    ab121705 wrote:

    anand has no chance. past his prime while carlsen is just reaching his

    Nope. Mark my words, Anand will win.

    History seems to indicate otherwise. Anand still has yet to beat Carlsen in a classical game since 2010. Carlsen, however, has managed to win five games since that time. Carlsen is also still world number 1 and has a huge gap between his rating and Anand's rating. I expect Anand to win at least one game, but the match still seems out of reach for him.

    Fischer beat Spasky without beating Spassky ever in his life time. It is best to compare how well he's done recently to how well Carlsen's done recently. That is more accurate than using head-to-head.

  • 3 weeks ago · Quote · #304

    IdiotBoxGuy

    DarknisMetalDragon wrote:

    chessman1504 wrote:
    IdiotBoxGuy wrote:
    ab121705 wrote:

    anand has no chance. past his prime while carlsen is just reaching his

    Nope. Mark my words, Anand will win.

    History seems to indicate otherwise. Anand still has yet to beat Carlsen in a classical game since 2010. Carlsen, however, has managed to win five games since that time. Carlsen is also still world number 1 and has a huge gap between his rating and Anand's rating. I expect Anand to win at least one game, but the match still seems out of reach for him.

    Fischer beat Spasky without beating Spassky ever in his life time. It is best to compare how well he's done recently to how well Carlsen's done recently. That is more accurate than using head-to-head.

    I have to agree with you. However, the statement I made was purely on my feeling of things to happen. Sorry for not making it clear earlier.

  • 3 weeks ago · Quote · #305

    chessman1504

    DarknisMetalDragon wrote:
    chessman1504 wrote:
    IdiotBoxGuy wrote:
    ab121705 wrote:

    anand has no chance. past his prime while carlsen is just reaching his

    Nope. Mark my words, Anand will win.

    History seems to indicate otherwise. Anand still has yet to beat Carlsen in a classical game since 2010. Carlsen, however, has managed to win five games since that time. Carlsen is also still world number 1 and has a huge gap between his rating and Anand's rating. I expect Anand to win at least one game, but the match still seems out of reach for him.

    Fischer beat Spasky without beating Spassky ever in his life time. It is best to compare how well he's done recently to how well Carlsen's done recently. That is more accurate than using head-to-head.

    That would be an inaccurate comparison because there was a two year span in between Spassky's last game with Fischer before the match and their world championship match. Fischer had the chance to understand Spassky's game better over those two years. 

    It's also not just head-to-head records. Two tournament victories doesn't make up for the fact that he hasn't matched Carlsen's consistency over a long span of time. Carlsen's two "subpar" tournament performances doesn't make up for Anand having those performances on a regular basis for the last six years. 

    Saying Anand has been doing better than Carlsen recently is a bit reactive. Why don't we just go even further and say Anand's chances rise every time he wins a game and Carlsen loses one?

  • 3 weeks ago · Quote · #306

    fabelhaft

    Fischer was younger than Spassky and rated 125 points higher at the time of the match. Anand is more than 20 years older and much lower rated. His winning the match would be more like Lasker losing the rematch against Steinitz than Fischer beating Spassky.

  • 13 days ago · Quote · #307

    kaifisher

    chessman1504 wrote:

    kaifisher wrote:

    Anand is unbeaten recently & magnus looks like human

    Anand was actually beaten by Aronian at Bilbao.

    You are right there but Vissy did win the tournament.

  • 13 days ago · Quote · #308

    trotters64

    It was interesting to hear from Alexander Grischuk during the current Baku event where he spoke about the upcoming world chess title match..Grischuk is of the opinion that Vishy did not weigh in at his optimal chess fighting weight in the first match with Magnus.

     Vishy had lost 10 kilos in the run up to the first match..this time round Vishy will know to keep the right amount of weight on and this extra weight will give him the physical and mental fortitude to perform at his best level.

    Grischuk , a top 10 player, commented that Magnus is not better than Vishy at matchplay he is just more consistent..if Vishy brings his A game it will be a good contest.

  • 13 days ago · Quote · #309

    Robert0905

    they are well matched I think

  • 13 days ago · Quote · #310

    DarknisMetalDragon

    trotters64 wrote:

    It was interesting to hear from Alexander Grischuk during the current Baku event where he spoke about the upcoming world chess title match..Grischuk is of the opinion that Vishy did not weigh in at his optimal chess fighting weight in the first match with Magnus.

     Vishy had lost 10 kilos in the run up to the first match..this time round Vishy will know to keep the right amount of weight on and this extra weight will give him the physical and mental fortitude to perform at his best level.

    Grischuk , a top 10 player, commented that Magnus is not better than Vishy at matchplay he is just more consistent..if Vishy brings his A game it will be a good contest.

    where did you hear this from?

  • 13 days ago · Quote · #311

    GM_Eeshaan

    I vote Anand...

  • 13 days ago · Quote · #312

    trotters64

    DarknisMetalDragon wrote:
    trotters64 wrote:

    It was interesting to hear from Alexander Grischuk during the current Baku event where he spoke about the upcoming world chess title match..Grischuk is of the opinion that Vishy did not weigh in at his optimal chess fighting weight in the first match with Magnus.

     Vishy had lost 10 kilos in the run up to the first match..this time round Vishy will know to keep the right amount of weight on and this extra weight will give him the physical and mental fortitude to perform at his best level.

    Grischuk , a top 10 player, commented that Magnus is not better than Vishy at matchplay he is just more consistent..if Vishy brings his A game it will be a good contest.

    where did you hear this from?

    From Alexander Grischuk number 5 in the world who was interviewed at the tournament in Baku that is now taking place.

  • 13 days ago · Quote · #313

    wartune_kartikeya

    What kind of a question is this?? it's like asking what is 2+2 lol..... It's OBVIOUS that carlsen will absolutely crush anand, i would be surprised if the match goes to game 10 even..

  • 13 days ago · Quote · #314

    chessman1504

    wartune_kartikeya wrote:

    What kind of a question is this?? it's like asking what is 2+2 lol..... It's OBVIOUS that carlsen will absolutely crush anand, i would be surprised if the match goes to game 10 even..

    Well, while I do think Carlsen will win, I'm not sure if he'll do better than his performance last year. Anand is playing stronger chess this year as a whole as compared to last year. 

  • 13 days ago · Quote · #315

    DarknisMetalDragon

    trotters64 wrote:
    DarknisMetalDragon wrote:
    trotters64 wrote:

    It was interesting to hear from Alexander Grischuk during the current Baku event where he spoke about the upcoming world chess title match..Grischuk is of the opinion that Vishy did not weigh in at his optimal chess fighting weight in the first match with Magnus.

     Vishy had lost 10 kilos in the run up to the first match..this time round Vishy will know to keep the right amount of weight on and this extra weight will give him the physical and mental fortitude to perform at his best level.

    Grischuk , a top 10 player, commented that Magnus is not better than Vishy at matchplay he is just more consistent..if Vishy brings his A game it will be a good contest.

    where did you hear this from?

    From Alexander Grischuk number 5 in the world who was interviewed at the tournament in Baku that is now taking place.

    Do you remember what round this was? I'd be interested in seeing this myself. If you don't remember that's fine, just thought it be interesting to see him explain it. Wish I had enough time to watch the press conferences.

  • 13 days ago · Quote · #316

    trotters64

    DarknisMetalDragon wrote:
    trotters64 wrote:
    DarknisMetalDragon wrote:
    trotters64 wrote:

    It was interesting to hear from Alexander Grischuk during the current Baku event where he spoke about the upcoming world chess title match..Grischuk is of the opinion that Vishy did not weigh in at his optimal chess fighting weight in the first match with Magnus.

     Vishy had lost 10 kilos in the run up to the first match..this time round Vishy will know to keep the right amount of weight on and this extra weight will give him the physical and mental fortitude to perform at his best level.

    Grischuk , a top 10 player, commented that Magnus is not better than Vishy at matchplay he is just more consistent..if Vishy brings his A game it will be a good contest.

    where did you hear this from?

    From Alexander Grischuk number 5 in the world who was interviewed at the tournament in Baku that is now taking place.

    Do you remember what round this was? I'd be interested in seeing this myself. If you don't remember that's fine, just thought it be interesting to see him explain it. Wish I had enough time to watch the press conferences.

    I think it was round 6 after he lost to Radjabov..not at a press conference but he sat beside a commentator to chat with him about the other games amongst other things and it was then that he spoke about Vishy Anand.

  • 12 days ago · Quote · #317

    DarknisMetalDragon

    trotters64 wrote:
    DarknisMetalDragon wrote:
    trotters64 wrote:
    DarknisMetalDragon wrote:
    trotters64 wrote:

    It was interesting to hear from Alexander Grischuk during the current Baku event where he spoke about the upcoming world chess title match..Grischuk is of the opinion that Vishy did not weigh in at his optimal chess fighting weight in the first match with Magnus.

     Vishy had lost 10 kilos in the run up to the first match..this time round Vishy will know to keep the right amount of weight on and this extra weight will give him the physical and mental fortitude to perform at his best level.

    Grischuk , a top 10 player, commented that Magnus is not better than Vishy at matchplay he is just more consistent..if Vishy brings his A game it will be a good contest.

    where did you hear this from?

    From Alexander Grischuk number 5 in the world who was interviewed at the tournament in Baku that is now taking place.

    Do you remember what round this was? I'd be interested in seeing this myself. If you don't remember that's fine, just thought it be interesting to see him explain it. Wish I had enough time to watch the press conferences.

    I think it was round 6 after he lost to Radjabov..not at a press conference but he sat beside a commentator to chat with him about the other games amongst other things and it was then that he spoke about Vishy Anand.

    I found it. It was in round 7 when he was talking to the commentator, not the press conference, but right after. On livestream, he begins talking about it on livestream at 01:55:50 for those who are also interested in hearing him talk about it.

  • 5 days ago · Quote · #318

    arul_kumar

    Anand says in an interview to an Indian journalist :" I am where I'm because of Chess,it fascinates me!" What an attitude!


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