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Carlsen and Nakamura slingin' everything at each other AGAIN


  • 21 months ago · Quote · #21

    sapientdust

    Carlsen's rating is now 2874, and he wins this tournament even if he loses the last game.

  • 21 months ago · Quote · #22

    rooperi

    Seems Sokolov's miserable tournament continues, looks like Hou's gonna take him out

  • 21 months ago · Quote · #23

    FirebrandX

    It all came down to that horrible Ng2 move Nakamura made. The entire house of cards came crashing down after Carlsen found f6.

  • 21 months ago · Quote · #24

    MrDamonSmith

    Carlsens a beast in all styles of play. If a players known for their tactical and attacking prowess they can get brutally beat down in their own style too.

  • 21 months ago · Quote · #25

    waffllemaster

    Well, I don't think carlsen was going for an attacking game.  But when his opponent slipped he certainly took advantage of it.  I wonder how much of that game was Nakamura deciding a draw meant nothing and he'd play for the win... or maybe it was a bad day... or then again maybe Carlsen's an incredibly strong player.  Maybe a little bit of everything heh.

  • 21 months ago · Quote · #26

    Crazychessplaya

    FirebrandX wrote:

    It all came down to that horrible Ng2 move Nakamura made. The entire house of cards came crashing down after Carlsen found f6.

    +1

  • 21 months ago · Quote · #27

    FirebrandX

    I think Carlsen's natural playing strength right now is the strongest ever seen in the history of human chess. He's getting to the point where the rest of the world's best players are a full class lower than he is.

  • 21 months ago · Quote · #28

    waffllemaster

    I was watching on chessbomb and I had to laugh when carlsen played a move not on its houdini3 list (sure they only let it think 30 seconds or something, but still).  And then the computer realizes Carlsen's move was very strong.  I think Kh1 and maybe 0-0 were not liked initially?  But specifically I'm thinking of g4.  Some users said houdini takes a very long time to find this move.  (Mine didn't find it after 5+ minutes and I got bored and turned it off).

  • 21 months ago · Quote · #29

    sapientdust

    I've seen quite a few moves that Carlsen found which weren't in Houdini's top three at 20-ply! I was surprised that Be6 wasn't though, because I found that one myself unaided, and it's kind of obvious when you see all the threats it sets up and notice that the pawn is pinned.

    If Carlsen wins the Candidates tournament and defeats Anand in the WC match, then I think there won't be much of an argument that he isn't the strongest player ever.

    The real question is how much further he can go. He's still improving, and if he wants it enough, I think he could keep improving for at least a few more years, and possibly longer.

  • 21 months ago · Quote · #30

    ChrisWainscott

    FirebrandX wrote:

    I think Carlsen's natural playing strength right now is the strongest ever seen in the history of human chess. He's getting to the point where the rest of the world's best players are a full class lower than he is.


    That has happened before twice in my lifetime.  Fischer and Karpov were both light years ahead of the rest of the world.

  • 21 months ago · Quote · #31

    MrDamonSmith

    That tournament in London in March is the most important and hardest of his life. I say hard because even though he's favored to win he's won so many on a row now and nobody finishes first place forever. He's due for a let down, anything other than first. Its a mathematical certainty. I'm a fan of Magnus but I was hoping for psychological reasons he didn't win this one just so he would be so motivated and pumped up to win London just because he didn't win here.

  • 21 months ago · Quote · #32

    DaBigOne

    Where are you guys watching the game?

  • 21 months ago · Quote · #33

    MrDamonSmith

    Like he has something to prove.

  • 21 months ago · Quote · #34

    Vease

    ChrisWainscott wrote:
    FirebrandX wrote:

    I think Carlsen's natural playing strength right now is the strongest ever seen in the history of human chess. He's getting to the point where the rest of the world's best players are a full class lower than he is.


    That has happened before twice in my lifetime.  Fischer and Karpov were both light years ahead of the rest of the world.

    Kasparov won 15 top tournaments in a row and petrified most of his opponents, I would say that counts as domination as well.

  • 21 months ago · Quote · #35

    MrDamonSmith

    2700chess.com/live

  • 21 months ago · Quote · #36

    sapientdust

    I agree that there will be incredible pressure on Magnus in the Candidates. I think the most difficult thing will be handling that pressure and winning the tournament against other amazing players like Kramnik, but if he does win the tournament, he'll have a much easier time beating Anand than he did in getting there.

    Having said that, Magnus seems to handle pressure better than anybody else. He is amazingly consistent, and when he has needed to win the last games of a tournament to secure a win, he has done it again and again.

  • 21 months ago · Quote · #37

    MrDamonSmith

    I agree that it would be harder to win candidates tournament than winning a match with Anand. He only has to be just barely over 50% to win the title against anand he'll be around 100 points stronger than anand by then. The London tournament though, he may have to score around 75 % . And there are also 7 other opponents looking for a payday of millions. Pressure indeed. This may be their only chance and they realize Carlsen will get more and they all know it.

  • 21 months ago · Quote · #38

    varelse1

    Ever since kasparov lost the title, the WCC hasn't really been the Greatest in the World. Has been more like, well, somebody's gotta be Champion, so here you go! You're first among equals!

    Now in Carlsen we are begining to see a True Champion emerge once again.

  • 21 months ago · Quote · #39

    sapientdust

    Totally agreed, varelse1, good point! It will be exciting to have the World Championship really mean something once more.

  • 21 months ago · Quote · #40

    Crazychessplaya

    Carlsen, he no patzer.


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