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Fabelous research! Thanks!
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Why are you leaving out draws? Because it looks better for the point you are trying to make?
@Recoleta: The point fabelhaft made is really impressive. It is legitimate to focus on decisive games only, especially when they almost all go one way.
"Why are you leaving out draws? Because it looks better for the point you are trying to make?"
Well, it takes much more time to count also the draws. Feel free to add them :-)
Still convinced that Carlsen isn't great, are we? Counting the draws wouldn't affect how many games he's won, you know.
Carlsen's 7 wins 0 loss regardless of how many draws vrs Naka...speaks volumes. I'm still hoping that he will continue to improve enough to challenge Carlsen
Carlsen's 26-3 in wins against the top ten on the rating list during the previous three years at the time of winning the title says more if it's compared with the stats of his predecessors. Kramnik won the title match against Kasparov in the end of year 2000. His win-loss score during the previous three years against the top ten of the following rating list was 13-8. Anand won the unified title in the end of 2007. His win-loss score counted in the same way was 13-7.
Kasparov's stats suffer a bit from his eight losses against Karpov in the title matches in 1984 and 1985, so he can't reach any Carlsen style numbers in that respect. Fischer gets a bit closer to Carlsen's 26-3 with his 20-6 in wins 1970-72 against the top ten.
Very impressive and interesting research.
I still think Carlsen has to be putting in the hard work even if he does have enormous natural talent. He gets accused of being too lazy. It's like they're accusing him of puttin' in this guys kind of effort
So, Carlsen mostly wins by cheap endgame tricks and psychological subterfuge?
No, how did you get that?
It has been discussed in the thread. I just found it interesting that seems to be the conclusion.
Wow, those numbers are truly amazing! Thanks again, fabelhaft.
However, at the same time u have to consider that Ivanchuk and Svidler aren't in the top 10. So Carlsen's losses against them aren't included in the "3."
Thats because they are the tail-enders.
Edit: nvm, I just read the OP's first post. Looks like the OP addressed that already.
my mind is blown that any chess player could be below a 1300
by Kasporov_Jr a few minutes ago
4/19/2014 - Tisdall - Lee, London 1981
by Kamal2001 4 minutes ago
how many players in blitz chess have rating more than 1200 in chess.com ?
by astronomer999 12 minutes ago
Can't play live chess
by SixRavens 13 minutes ago
A fine game by Finegold
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by dashkee94 28 minutes ago
Carlsen and the quest for 2900
by Scottrf 29 minutes ago
no piece and board showing up..its like blindfold
by jiraya1234 30 minutes ago
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Need help getting better at chess
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