Castling is full of surprises

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13th January 2009, 02:35am
#1
by Spinatai
Vilnius Lithuania
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 89

I've been playing chess for more than a year, only to discover recently that you CAN castle when you're a square that your rook passes is attacked! (queenside castle when b1 or b8 is attacked) Although chess.com's diagram editor doesn't allow me to post a diagram showing that. Kinda weird, don't ya think?

13th January 2009, 02:37am
#2
by Scarblac
Arnhem Netherlands
Member Since: Nov 2008
Member Points: 1822

It's logical, there are rules against putting the king in danger, none about putting rooks in danger.

You can castle when the rook is being attacked as well.

13th January 2009, 02:43am
#3
by Spinatai
Vilnius Lithuania
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 89

Omg, I just realised, you're right!
From fide.com:

"(2) Castling is prevented temporarily

  1. if the square on which the king stands, or the square which it must cross, or the square which it is to occupy, is attacked by one or more of the opponent`s pieces.

  2. if there is any piece between the king and the rook with which castling is to be effected."

Says nothing about the rook. And all this time I though that the rook cannot be attacked, not can it pass an attacked square while castling :O

13th January 2009, 02:45am
#4
by Atinau
Jerusalem Israel
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 123

sounds very odd. are you sure that only the rook is under attack? if this is the case there is a bug in the chess.com diagram.

13th January 2009, 02:45am
#5
by goldendog
beertopia United States
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 2278

In his Candidates with Karpov in 1974 Korchnoi got up and asked the arbiter if he could castle with his rook under attack. Assured that he could, he did, and soon won. That's an odd one isn't it.

13th January 2009, 03:03am
#6
by BorgQueen
Adelaide Australia
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 4922

You cannot castle through a checked square, but that definitely only applies to the king.

14th January 2009, 04:31am
#7
by Spinatai
Vilnius Lithuania
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 89

Anyway, seems like chess.com's games have errrorsrrr...

14th January 2009, 04:56am
#8
by cuendillar
Stockholm Sweden
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 820
goldendog wrote:

In his Candidates with Karpov in 1974 Korchnoi got up and asked the arbiter if he could castle with his rook under attack. Assured that he could, he did, and soon won. That's an odd one isn't it.


I know of that episode too, though the first time I heard it I wondered if his asking was just a psychological ploy. His moves leading up to that point certainly included that 0-0 in the calculations.

14th January 2009, 05:55am
#9
by Viau_A
Vars, Ontario Canada
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 199

I dont see a bug.

 

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