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Castling Structure (Which one do you prefer ?)


  • 15 months ago · Quote · #1

    DinneBolt

    It's not white vs black. I'm just curious about the castling structure. Which one castling structure do you prefer ? What is the advantage and disadvantage of each structure ? And is each structure has name ?

    I personally prefer the white's structure atm. I feel that my King is saver.

    Any comments and shares would be very appreciated.

     

    Regards,

    -DinneBolt~~

     


    -Edited- See page 2 post #30
    Note :
    Actually the knight and bishop are just complement. That 2 castling structure is the most commonly used in my experience. The first time i make the diagram there are only King, Rook, and 3 Pawns. But i think black castling need fianchettoed bishop. And it wouldn't fair if there is no white bishop. But i shouldn't put that bishop on g3, maybe it would be better on e2 or d3, so there will be no discussion about it. And for knights, they are really just complement. As you can see i just put them anywhere that make sense :D

  • 15 months ago · Quote · #2

    TeraHammer

    i would say i like black better, because black's bishop is a little more mobile: white's f2 pawn blocks a route for the bishop, and white's bishop is a little more vulnerable to attacks. But, if the bishops were gone, black's king is more vulnerable on with pieces entering the castle on the dark squares
  • 15 months ago · Quote · #3

    trysts

    I'd have to see where the other pieces are before I choose.

  • 15 months ago · Quote · #4

    PatzerLars

    Other pieces are irrelevant, since the question was about a structure, not the position as a whole.

    I prefer blacks castling structure.
  • 15 months ago · Quote · #5

    trysts

    PatzerLars wrote:

    Other pieces are irrelevant, since the question was about a structure, not the position as a whole.

    I prefer blacks castling structure.

    So you mean which structure is more aesthetically appealing?

  • 15 months ago · Quote · #6

    TeraHammer

    for what reason, Lars?
  • 15 months ago · Quote · #8

    TeraHammer

    ^ lazy answer. Ofcourse structures can be analysed without needing legal diagrams. For example, a knight on e5 is generally better placed than a knight on a1, because it has more moves.
  • 15 months ago · Quote · #10

    MaartenSmit

    Sure, a knight is *generally* better placed on e5 than on a1, and even that has its exceptions. Now tell me whether a bishop is *generally* better on g3 or g2.

  • 15 months ago · Quote · #12

    TeraHammer

    well as i said, a bishop on g3 in these castling position is less mobile due to the f2 pawn and more easily attacked. Now you say something useful.
  • 15 months ago · Quote · #14

    MaartenSmit

    ...h5-h4 is a real threat, you know...

  • 15 months ago · Quote · #15

    TeraHammer

    well, f7-f5-f4 might be, often closing in the bishop on h2
  • 15 months ago · Quote · #17

    TeraHammer

    -.- don't reply if all you can do is mock
  • 15 months ago · Quote · #18

    DinneBolt

    TeraHammer wrote:
    i would say i like black better, because black's bishop is a little more mobile: white's f2 pawn blocks a route for the bishop, and white's bishop is a little more vulnerable to attacks. But, if the bishops were gone, black's king is more vulnerable on with pieces entering the castle on the dark squares

    In other word you will say that white King is saver. Since as the game goes on, the Bishop will leave its current position or maybe make an exchange. And f pawn will move (f2-f4 / f7-f5) and make black King a little more vulnerable. Cmiiw.

    bbracken wrote:

    I would have to say that black's structure is the design of some openings and takes 2 moves to accomplish as part of the opening. Whereas white's position is not necessarily the result of design but rather the result of position, pressure and tactics (and takes 3 moves at minimum to achieve).

    One (black) is part of a strategy, and the other (white) a result of tactics.


    Sorry for my misinterpretation, since my english isn't very good. Can you explain me the difference of "part of a strategy" and "a result of tactics". Furthermore the difference of "stategy" and "tactics" ?

  • 15 months ago · Quote · #20

    TeraHammer

    @Dinne If the bishops are gone, i think white is safer, because black has got weaknesses near his king on f6 and h6. But for that reason, black will try to avoid trading that bishop.

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