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9th April 2009, 07:51pm
#1
by Sweagen
Ontario Canada
Member Since: Feb 2009
Member Points: 170

As a 14-year old chess player on chess.com, I am able to beat most people I know that are my age, and can't help feeling that I'm in a minority of chess players on chess.com.

Each day on chess.com I face off against many people of varying ages (most of which are much older than me), and can't help but wonder at how intelligence is linked to a person's age. I realize that there are grandmasters at age 14+ nowadays, but do people grow smarter with age? As I sit at a sturdy 1100 rating I wonder if I will ever begin to seriously improve at chess, and if there will be a natural progression as I get older? Does anyone know anything about the relationships between age and a person's performance on a chess board?

-Sweagen



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9th April 2009, 07:58pm
#2
by y0ungbl00d31
Syracuse United States
Member Since: Sep 2008
Member Points: 86

Im 14 and I don't think age matters its more of a expirence at chess than life. Although intellegence can very well help you devolp chess but ive beaten alot of smart kids at chess at my school although they don't play alot like me.

9th April 2009, 08:01pm
#3
by Krawkyz
Indiana United States
Member Since: Feb 2009
Member Points: 88

I'm 12 and rated 1350-1500 and I wouldn't expect people to be underestimated by age. Also, Chess.com isn't as populous as the USCF. The ages in the USCF will not matter in any way since I've seen 50 year olds beating and losing to 12 year olds while 5 year olds are winning to 14 year olds. Hope I helped!

9th April 2009, 08:08pm
#4
by Kaidanov_Apprentice
Louisville United States
Member Since: Mar 2009
Member Points: 21

Well, certainly chess is linked to your age when you first learn it. When you arew younger your mind will grasp concepts much more quickly and rapidly advance in that knowledge. Of course there are those that learn at a much older age and become quite sophisticated players but very rarely become IM rated or higher.

9th April 2009, 08:29pm
#5
by y0ungbl00d31
Syracuse United States
Member Since: Sep 2008
Member Points: 86
Kaidanov_Apprentice wrote:

Well, certainly chess is linked to your age when you first learn it. When you arew younger your mind will grasp concepts much more quickly and rapidly advance in that knowledge. Of course there are those that learn at a much older age and become quite sophisticated players but very rarely become IM rated or higher.


This is true this is how prodigys are born.

9th April 2009, 09:14pm
#6
by rockycamarista
Cainta, Rizal Philippines
Member Since: Nov 2008
Member Points: 410

I'm 12 and I'm staying between 1150-1270, so I don't think age becomes variable in chess.

9th April 2009, 09:23pm
#7
by Daedalus
Santa Cruz, California United States
Member Since: Sep 2008
Member Points: 598

I'm 16 and am a 1850 rating, I don't think it has that much to do with age, just the amount of practice.

9th April 2009, 09:28pm
#8
by TomR
Grafton Australia
Member Since: Mar 2009
Member Points: 221

Exactly, therefore in theory the older you are the better you will be because you have been playing longer. Unless your say 15 and have played since you were 8 and a 40 year old who has only played for a year, then you would assume the 15 year old would win

9th April 2009, 09:49pm
#9
by TheGrobe
Calgary Canada
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 14433

There seems to be a sense that players peak, likely some-time in their thirties, so it's not strictly a product of experience.

9th April 2009, 09:53pm
#10
by TheGrobe
Calgary Canada
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 14433

Here is an interesting, and very relevant chart of that phenomenon for six of the best players of all time:

9th April 2009, 10:26pm
#11
by RC_Woods
Nijmegen Netherlands
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 1000

I'm quite sure that it depends on starting age and practice and physical condition..

All conditions equal, an advantage on any of these three will be beneficial.

If you want to be a titled player it is not impossible to start late, but you will have to work.. much harder. Effectively, out of hundreds of GM's only two are known to have started at a later age: Akiba Rubinstein and Steinitz.

9th April 2009, 11:10pm
#12
by Wesso
Somewhere United States
Member Since: Jan 2009
Member Points: 961
Sweagen wrote:

but do people grow smarter with age? As I sit at a sturdy 1100 rating I wonder if I will ever begin to seriously improve at chess, and if there will be a natural progression as I get older? Does anyone know anything about the relationships between age and a person's performance on a chess board?

-Sweagen

Some, but I'd say most people get more stupid as they age generally peaking in college during their 20s; then you get married, kids, metabolism slows, bills, taxes, pretty soon you can't remember where the car keys are and it takes two days to find your damn cell phone, TV by now has rotted your brain, you haven't seen your toes in years and you end up drooling into a bowl of creamed corn.  I've seen a 100 xs.

Nah, just joking.  If you seriously want to improve ask yourself, am I seriously studying?  Just remember this, eventually time and mileage take their toll, so do everything you can to prevent it.  Eat healthy, workout, play alot of chess and pray you don't get hit by a Mac Truck.  Smile

Excellent question btw.

9th April 2009, 11:37pm
#13
by milsrilion
United States
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 90
Sweagen wrote:

Does anyone know anything about the relationships between age and a person's performance on a chess board?

-Sweagen

I'm 17, and I used to ask myself this very question when I was 14 like you. Here's my observation: as you age, the message of the people you live with sinks in more and more. That is, if folks at home encourage playing chess, you will want to play and improve more and more as you become older; if they discourage playing chess, your interest in chess will slowly albeit steadily decline unless you put an effort to hold onto your passion for the game.

I hope that helps!

9th April 2009, 11:59pm
#14
by XavierPadilla
Mazatlán, Sin. Mexico
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 1973

I'm 30 and started playing chess when I was 5; it didn't make me reach a high rating, though. Recently, I lost a tournament OTB game to a 13 year old kid. Age has little to do with chess. Overall health, experience and hard study are far more important. So don't forget to eat your vegetables. Tongue out

10th April 2009, 01:46am
#15
by LordJones3rd
Bristol Wales
Member Since: Jan 2009
Member Points: 691

age does not have much to do with quality of chess but a 30 year-old is quite likely to beat a 6 year-old.

 

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