Chess and IQ.

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31st January 2009, 08:19pm
#61
by moaz
Bangladesh
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 185

Sounds great   Dr_Doc_MD

1st February 2009, 05:32am
#62
by ichabod801
Maryland United States
Member Since: Dec 2008
Member Points: 772
minatonamikaze7 wrote:

BTW...........aren't there like 85 threads like this already? does anyone check before they post a new one........


Welcome to the internet.

1st February 2009, 05:59am
#63
by JoseO
Miami, FL United States
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 156

People have to remember that IQ tests were never meant to measure intelligence. IQ tests were originally developed to see what areas that children needed to develop so that could receive instruction in those areas that they were found to be lacking.

Over time this was somehow forgotten and instead IQ tests are now perceived as a way to compare someone's intelligence against someone else. Intelligence can not truly measured except in limited ways (compare someone's skill at math for example).

There are people who have skills in problem solving, music, and other skills that may not necessarily do well in IQ tests.

I think chess players tend to develop skills as a result of playing chess since you have to analyze, study, and evaluate a game as you go along.

1st February 2009, 06:02am
#64
by JoseO
Miami, FL United States
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 156
Kupov wrote:

Why is it that everyone on the internet seems to have genius level I.Q scores?


It could be that those people who do not have high IQs do not go around listing their IQs. Another reason could be that they are using Google to find the answers to questions so that their IQs look better than they really are :)

1st February 2009, 06:14am
#65
by Mimchi
United States
Member Since: Jan 2009
Member Points: 200

I played a 14 year old math genius with an IQ of 165 chess. He played very well and beat me. I'm rated 1712 USCF. Therefore, yes, IQ plays a critical role in chess ability.

1st February 2009, 06:52am
#66
by drmr4vrmr
baguio Philippines
Member Since: Jul 2008
Member Points: 463

IQ is an indicator. it does not gauge your intelligence, it can only indicate a maybe u r maybe u r not. I quite agree with SteveM. It is well documented a person could be skilled in one area and a dummy in another. Also we should not confuse skill from intelligence.

1st February 2009, 01:00pm
#67
by AfroDzEact
Toronto Canada
Member Since: Jan 2009
Member Points: 633

Smarts come in different ways.

1st February 2009, 02:22pm
#68
by Ziryab
Spokane, Washington United States
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 1331
Kupov wrote:

Why is it that everyone on the internet seems to have genius level I.Q scores?


Microsoft!

1st February 2009, 11:13pm
#69
by moaz
Bangladesh
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 185
Mimchi wrote:

I played a 14 year old math genius with an IQ of 165 chess. He played very well and beat me. I'm rated 1712 USCF. Therefore, yes, IQ plays a critical role in chess ability.


Yes I have a  friend who doesnt play chess often,but he has a very high IQ.My other friend does indeed practice, but he loses to my non-playing friend in tactical areas.

23rd March 2009, 11:16pm
#70
by Masud
Dhaka Bangladesh
Member Since: Jul 2008
Member Points: 1311

any one please send me a IQ test software or something like that to my e-mail address below:

masud_sumon@yahoo.com

Thanx.

23rd March 2009, 11:30pm
#71
by maheshnath
kada India
Member Since: Feb 2009
Member Points: 2

yes it depends,i have seen many person with high iq learn to play chess very easily.

23rd March 2009, 11:31pm
#72
by maheshnath
kada India
Member Since: Feb 2009
Member Points: 2

yes it depends,i have seen manyyes it depends,i have seen many person with high iq learn person with high iq learn to play chess very easily.

23rd March 2009, 11:36pm
#73
by sharkpoet
pennsylvania United States
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 5811

I think of IQ as a tool that a player brings to the board with them.  IQ may be important in solving tactical problems, but it is experience that gets that position set up in the first place.  Fischer, Kasparov, and Tal may or may not have been geniuses, but the fact remains that they were practicing their game far more strictly than the average player.  They didn't just sit at the board and play well from the start, all three had mentors or coaches that trained them along the way.  Even Fischer grew up reading about the Russian grandmasters and their games.  IQ may give a person an advantage, but he/she must first use and expand their "chess knowledge" by doing the studying.

23rd March 2009, 11:40pm
#74
by plevanto
Helsinki Finland
Member Since: Mar 2009
Member Points: 38
stanhope13 wrote:

i have to agree, there are loads of such tests, Beethoven was deaf, a deaf composer!!!! 



Beethoven was not deaf untill the very last years of his life and even at that time he was never completely deaf but had periods of hearing well. His syptoms started when he was a matured and educated composer and deteriorated only gradually over many years. I know it´s tempting to call him deaf and then marvel at his genius (which is unquestioned, of course) but it´s inaccurate.

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