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17th June 2009, 07:49am
#1
by Garymossu
Brooklyn United States
Member Since: Jan 2009
Member Points: 274

Is Chess spelled with a capital or lowercase "c"?

17th June 2009, 07:51am
#2
by Nytik
Southampton United Kingdom
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 5828

That would depend on whether you're using it to start a sentence or not. Smile

17th June 2009, 07:51am
#3
by Tricklev
Sweden
Member Since: Feb 2009
Member Points: 2191

Depends on where in the sentence you use it.

Chess is a great game.

I prefer chess over Time Crisis, but I still prefer Super Mario over chess.

17th June 2009, 07:54am
#4
by TheGrobe
Calgary Canada
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 14433

Chess is a great game, and the best chess site out there is Chess.com.

17th June 2009, 07:55am
#5
by Nytik
Southampton United Kingdom
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 5828

TheGrobe, is Chess.com correctly capitalised? I do not think websites are proper nouns...

17th June 2009, 07:57am
#6
by Garymossu
Brooklyn United States
Member Since: Jan 2009
Member Points: 274

Teshuvah wrote:

http://hiphiphooraymagazine.com/Spelling/capitalization%20tutorial.pdf

 

The author uses chess as her example. Scroll down a tad.


 

Thank you.  This was the intelligent answer i was looking for.  You should get 100 member points for this one.  I think sometimes people should lose member points for their stupid posts.

17th June 2009, 07:57am
#7
by TheGrobe
Calgary Canada
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 14433

How is it not a proper noun?

[Edit:

From http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-proper-noun.htm:

There are usually certain words that you’ll always be able to identify as a proper noun. Countries and cities, months, days of the week, names of companies or organizations, honorary titles, and names of people or even pets are examples of proper nouns

Emphasis mine]

17th June 2009, 08:02am
#8
by Garymossu
Brooklyn United States
Member Since: Jan 2009
Member Points: 274
TheGrobe wrote:

How is it not a proper noun?

[Edit:

From http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-proper-noun.htm:

There are usually certain words that you’ll always be able to identify as a proper noun. Countries and cities, months, days of the week, names of companies or organizations, honorary titles, and names of people or even pets are examples of proper nouns

Emphasis mine]


Yes.  This is my question.  Thank you.

17th June 2009, 08:02am
#9
by Nytik
Southampton United Kingdom
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 5828
Garymossu wrote:

Teshuvah wrote:

http://hiphiphooraymagazine.com/Spelling/capitalization%20tutorial.pdf

 

The author uses chess as her example. Scroll down a tad.


 

Thank you.  This was the intelligent answer i was looking for.  You should get 100 member points for this one.  I think sometimes people should lose member points for their stupid posts.


Excuse me, what was wrong with my post? I answered the question just as much as that link does, in a much shorter space of time.

17th June 2009, 08:02am
#10
by marvellosity
Portsmouth United Kingdom
Member Since: May 2009
Member Points: 2077

Websites are different. It's chess.com.

17th June 2009, 08:03am
#11
by qixel
California United States
Member Since: May 2009
Member Points: 2197

All I know is Elizabeth Vicary is freaking that people are writing "Knight" instead of "knight".

Sort of like, "Gasol, gimme the Ball."

Amy

17th June 2009, 08:07am
#12
by bigpoison
Yonder United States
Member Since: Dec 2008
Member Points: 4203

marvellosity is correct.

17th June 2009, 08:09am
#13
by Nytik
Southampton United Kingdom
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 5828

Now that the website issue is sorted, I have a small issue... shouldn't the thread be entitled Chess and Grammar?

17th June 2009, 08:09am
#14
by Garymossu
Brooklyn United States
Member Since: Jan 2009
Member Points: 274
Nytik wrote:
Garymossu wrote:

Teshuvah wrote:

http://hiphiphooraymagazine.com/Spelling/capitalization%20tutorial.pdf

 

The author uses chess as her example. Scroll down a tad.


 

Thank you.  This was the intelligent answer i was looking for.  You should get 100 member points for this one.  I think sometimes people should lose member points for their stupid posts.


Excuse me, what was wrong with my post? I answered the question just as much as that link does, in a much shorter space of time.


You know something?  I didn't check out that site...I figured if he was giving me a site it said something about whether "Chess" is a proper noun or common.  

I thought it was obvious I wasn't asking about the rule of capitalization at the start of a sentence!

17th June 2009, 08:17am
#15
by Crazychessplaya
Warsaw Poland
Member Since: May 2009
Member Points: 4832

Rules for capitalization in English changed over the years. The US constitution uses majuscules in the 1787 version:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/19/Constitution_Pg1of4_AC.jpg

Keeping up with linguistic mutations can be a pain for immortals...

17th June 2009, 08:19am
#16
by bigpoison
Yonder United States
Member Since: Dec 2008
Member Points: 4203
Crazychessplaya wrote:

Rules for capitalization in English changed over the years. The US constitution uses majuscules in the 1787 version:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/19/Constitution_Pg1of4_AC.jpg

Keeping up with linguistic mutations can be a pain for immortals...


No kidding!  I feel bad for those who can never die.  Damned language, why can't it just be static?

17th June 2009, 08:36am
#17
by onosson
Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 728

Language changes so we can tell who is "one of us", and who is not.  I recommend reading up on "shibboleth", e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shibolleth

17th June 2009, 08:45am
#18
by TheGrobe
Calgary Canada
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 14433
marvellosity wrote:

Websites are different. It's chess.com.


So more correct, then, would be:

Chess is a great game, and the best chess site out there is chess.com which is operated by Erik and his staff at Chess.com.

?

It seems an odd distinction, especially so when the web-site and the company have the same name.  My understanding of what a proper noun is is the name of a person, place or thing.  Why should a web-site be exempt?

17th June 2009, 08:50am
#19
by AfafBouardi
Austin United States
Member Since: Jan 2009
Member Points: 3240
Nytik wrote:

Now that the website issue is sorted, I have a small issue... shouldn't the thread be entitled Chess and Grammar?


haha.  that was my first thought.  

onosson.  Now with the entire world viewing American media and television shows, you'll find globally that they all understand "us" and can commingle without detection!

17th June 2009, 08:50am
#20
by bigpoison
Yonder United States
Member Since: Dec 2008
Member Points: 4203

Yes, TheGrobe, you are correct.  Website's are exempt, I think, because of their ubiquitous and unstable nature, also the URL itself is seldom capitalized.

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