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22nd February 2009, 12:50pm
#1
by buster47
Nice-FR. Denmark
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 664

Lots of chess players on this site play at work and there for becomes professionals as they get paid for it, I even suggest them to ask their bosses to sponsor their membership on chess.com as they for sure are proud of having professionals  players in their company.Innocent

22nd February 2009, 08:16pm
#2
by Theempiremaker
United States
Member Since: Nov 2008
Member Points: 718

Some of my best times with chess have been at work.

3rd March 2009, 01:21pm
#3
by TheBrood
Veldhoven Netherlands
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 7

I bet my boss will kick me out of the building if he find out that I am wasting time Yell 

3rd March 2009, 01:34pm
#4
by Theempiremaker
United States
Member Since: Nov 2008
Member Points: 718

 Than don't waste your time ,play Chess : )

3rd March 2009, 02:59pm
#5
by paul211
Ontario Canada
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 1876

As a boss, I would give you so much to attend to that you would be running behind all of the time and have no time to play chess at work.

Additionnally I would check your progress twice a day on any given work assigned, and more I would ask you your projection of completion date and if you answered in 2 days I would say I would like it to see it completed by tomorrow afternoon.

I am giving you a break here as I had one boss that assigned me a 2 day jobs and did not ask but demanded to be ready first thing in the morning.

He even told me if I could not do it I would have to be replaced.

Guess what? I worked till 1 or 2 am was at work at 7am and sustained his tyrannical ruthless style of management. He was certainly good as he became president of Michelin in France.

But he did admit in leaving that no one was ever able to always meet his timelines but me, he said you cannot all that I ask for but I have a respect for you as you are the only one that did.

14 years later I became Plant Manager and had the best team in the world in achieving our common objectives as I mixed my experience with his A ..x type style of management, in other words blended the dictatorial style of management with a more humanitarian approach giving the opportunity to my dept. supervisors to have their input.

Now get to work, we pay you for your output and contribution.

6th March 2009, 02:46pm
#6
by Theempiremaker
United States
Member Since: Nov 2008
Member Points: 718
paul211 wrote:

As a boss, I would give you so much to attend to that you would be running behind all of the time and have no time to play chess at work.

Additionnally I would check your progress twice a day on any given work assigned, and more I would ask you your projection of completion date and if you answered in 2 days I would say I would like it to see it completed by tomorrow afternoon.

I am giving you a break here as I had one boss that assigned me a 2 day jobs and did not ask but demanded to be ready first thing in the morning.

He even told me if I could not do it I would have to be replaced.

Guess what? I worked till 1 or 2 am was at work at 7am and sustained his tyrannical ruthless style of management. He was certainly good as he became president of Michelin in France.

But he did admit in leaving that no one was ever able to always meet his timelines but me, he said you cannot all that I ask for but I have a respect for you as you are the only one that did.

14 years later I became Plant Manager and had the best team in the world in achieving our common objectives as I mixed my experience with his A ..x type style of management, in other words blended the dictatorial style of management with a more humanitarian approach giving the opportunity to my dept. supervisors to have their input.

Now get to work, we pay you for your output and contribution.


YOU CAN KEEP YOUR " SO MUCH TO ATTEND TOO '' AND STICK IT WHERE THE SUN DONT SHINE !

7th March 2009, 02:41pm
#7
by paul211
Ontario Canada
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 1876

Theempiremaker said:

YOU CAN KEEP YOUR " SO MUCH TO ATTEND TOO '' AND STICK IT WHERE THE SUN DONT SHINE !

You may want to read " Candide" by Voltaire, this book is a perfect mate to your line of thinking.

By the way GM, yes General Motors which is a USA Co., just went belly up the last few days, they declared bankruptcy.

I really hope not because too many people where playing chess on the job.

Food for thought!

And by the way I said : "so much to attend to" not " SO MUCH TO ATTEND TOO '', only one "o" not 2. And never yelled at anyone.

Please be civilized otherwise you are acting like a plebian.

7th March 2009, 02:51pm
#8
by buster47
Nice-FR. Denmark
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 664

How can you be civilized when you even can't spell to plebeian?

7th March 2009, 02:56pm
#9
by taijifan
Atlanta United States
Member Since: Mar 2009
Member Points: 27
paul211 wrote:

As a boss, I would give you so much to attend to that you would be running behind all of the time and have no time to play chess at work.

Additionnally I would check your progress twice a day on any given work assigned, and more I would ask you your projection of completion date and if you answered in 2 days I would say I would like it to see it completed by 


 

I'm a software developer, in my field the amount of productive hours that is reasonably expected from a days worth of work is prob 4-5 at most. It doesn't matter if you're on task for 12 or 14 hours, the amount of quality productive work is going to be about 4-5 on average.

Employers who try to get more usually get subpar quality work. Fatigue is a factor, and like chess, you often have to take breaks and develop a fresh prospective on the problem. It's similar to how chess players often miss things the longer they've spent calculating a position, so the last candidate move is often the least well analyzed (or, rather, the analysis is of the lowest quality).

Every good software manager is aware of this, and as long as the employee is productive, it just doesn't matter. The terrible managers have beliefs similar to yours, and think productive work scales with the amount of time spent on the work. These same people often believe you can make a late project ship on time by just adding more developers to it, which is a known anti-pattern.

Fortunately, good developers can easily recognize poor managers, and avoid them. This is not to say people should spend their work time playing chess, but certainly when they need a break to be productive, they should take a break. Productivity is the desired end result, after all.

7th March 2009, 02:58pm
#10
Member Since: Feb 2009
Member Points: 812
buster47 wrote:

How can you be civilized when you even can't spell to plebeian?


 How is "spell to plebeian" correct grammar buster47. This is very ironic.

p.s. I've checked my post 5 times to make sure I don't fall into the same trap.

7th March 2009, 03:03pm
#11
by buster47
Nice-FR. Denmark
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 664

I am glad you find it ironic as the  topic was meant to be ironic.  Sealed

7th March 2009, 03:08pm
#12
by paul211
Ontario Canada
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 1876
buster47 wrote:

How can you be civilized when you even can't spell to plebeian?


You obviously have not studied latin at all, the translation in english is actually valid both ways, for references:

1.http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/plebian

2.http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=plebian

3.http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/plebian

In the Roman days there was no middle class ony the Patricians, the rich people , and the plebians, the lower or common class people.

Are you becoming more civilized or educated now?

7th March 2009, 03:11pm
#13
by Bruiser419
Ohio United States
Member Since: Dec 2008
Member Points: 301

I only play on my lunch break at work. 

7th March 2009, 03:20pm
#14
by buster47
Nice-FR. Denmark
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 664
paul211 wrote:
buster47 wrote:

How can you be civilized when you even can't spell to plebeian?


You obviously have not studied latin at all, the translation in english is actually valid both ways, for references:

1.http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/plebian

2.http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=plebian

3.http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/plebian

In the Roman days there was no middle class ony the Patricians, the rich people , and the plebians, the lower or common class people.

Are you becoming more civilized or educated now?


No

8th April 2009, 06:15am
#15
by EVANSTEINW21
MD United States
Member Since: Apr 2009
Member Points: 55
that is so true

8th April 2009, 12:58pm
#16
by paul211
Ontario Canada
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 1876
EVANSTEINW21 wrote:
that is so true


 Which post are you referring to?

13th April 2009, 05:55am
#17
by EVANSTEINW21
MD United States
Member Since: Apr 2009
Member Points: 55
paul211 wrote:
buster47 wrote:

How can you be civilized when you even can't spell to plebeian?


You obviously have not studied latin at all, the translation in english is actually valid both ways, for references:

1.http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/plebian

2.http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=plebian

3.http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/plebian

In the Roman days there was no middle class ony the Patricians, the rich people , and the plebians, the lower or common class people.

Are you becoming more civilized or educated now?


 i study latin

13th April 2009, 05:56am
#18
by EVANSTEINW21
MD United States
Member Since: Apr 2009
Member Points: 55
paul211 wrote:
EVANSTEINW21 wrote:
that is so true


 Which post are you referring to?


 the first post

13th April 2009, 06:14am
#19
by pmscarecrow
Gatineau,hull Canada
Member Since: Dec 2008
Member Points: 161

Hi Morons..

If you look to your right (ABC with check mark)= spell check it take a mire two seconds to click on...

I don't think your boss would mind now you would be learning how to spell

correctly...

13th April 2009, 11:25am
#20
by paul211
Ontario Canada
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 1876
pmscarecrow wrote:

Hi Morons..

If you look to your right (ABC with check mark)= spell check it take a mire two seconds to click on...

I don't think your boss would mind now you would be learning how to spell

correctly...


 Thanks for the tip, did not know this.

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