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members, any members know of a good book out there that will delve deeply into the below concepts in chess
KUDOS TO MEMBERS KOHAI, ESTRAGON AND EAINCA, TGHANKS FOR COMING TO MY HELP IN THIS MATTER.
I AM NOW INTO TRYING TO STUDY THE MANY CONCEPTS OF CHESS DURING THE GAME TO SEE IF THEY WILL HELP IMPROVE MY GAME, THAT IS IN DESPARATE NEED OF IMPROVING.
BESIDES STUDYING THE THEORY(OF WHICH MY CHESS CLUB HOST INSISTS THAT I DIVE INTO INSTEAD SWITCHING TO DIFFERENT OPENINGS ALL THE TIME
I PLAN ON FUTHER DELVING INTO TIMING,SPACE,HOW MANY TIMES ATTACKED OR HOW MANY TIMES DEFENDED, PLUS THREATS ETC.
THANKS FOR YOUR HELP
i find that its great to have an intelligent information base right within
the membership of this site. i am sorry that i ask many questions, but its a habit from my last cAreer THAT I RETIRED FROM, prior to having my stroke, THAT
IF I DON'T ASK, I DON'T GET USE OF THIS FANTastic information source.
thanks for your previous help as always.
antne003, tony from new jersey shore
ps, if any member is annoyed or tired of responding to my requests, I'M SORRY
AND I UNDERSTAND IF YOU WON'T ANSWER
I THANK YOU ALL ANYWAY FOR THE PREVILEGE OF ASKING YOU.
Things like space, development, and counting defenders (related to over-protection) could be thought of as positional or strategic ideas, so I suggest some books along those lines.
Nimzowitsch's book "My System" is a classic and is highly regarded for these kinds of fundamentals of chess. Although, in my opinion at least, it's not a good book to start on. You could learn from it though, it would not be a waste of money, but perhaps as a book to grow on.
Seriwan's "winning chess strategies" is a fine book.
As for openings, I wouldn't suggest an opening book, but instead play many games, and afterwards use something like this site's opening explorer (which you can find under Learn > Openings > Game Explorer) This way you can find the point when you left "book" and see the reasonable alternatives to the move you played in the game.
Opening books aren't very useful at first, in fact not until 1800 or even 2000 (which is at least 2100 turn based here). But going through you games like this will help you build a good repertoire. In the mean time be sure you're working on tactics
orangehonda's recommendations are always good, but in your case I think they may be somewhat advanced. But buying My System is never a bad move because it will always help you at some point. I've read it cover-to-cover seven times - but several years apart - and gained more understanding of the game every time. If you choose it and feel over your head, don't worry: absorb what you can and come back to it later on.
But the best advice in your position - speaking skill level only, irrespective of health record - is to play, play, play and train with the Tactics Trainer. For players at an entry level and early skill levels, the biggest problem is ALWAYS overlooking what more experienced players consider simple tactics - "cheap shots" is what we called them back in the day.
You lose material to cheap shots. You can measure your improvement by tracking how many games you lose to these cheap shots against how many you win with cheap shots of your own. Once you are winning more games with cheap shots than you are losing to cheap shots, you can consider other paths of study. Until then, you need to learn tactics.
Also try the daily puzzles on the home page here, and also at chessgames.com. Usually they are pretty simple, but sometimes challenging even for strong players.
In trying to improve, you must work on the most basic weakness in your game first, and that is tactics for almost everybody.
Also, may God bless you for your service. Nobody loves cops, but when they are in trouble, nobody calls the hippies.
Simple Chess by Michael Stean--great book (and unlike My System, it doesn't ever mention boogers).
But does Aron make his point, or not?
You booger-nosed meanie . . .
Although things like timing and space may be what's rousing your interest right now -- I'm going to have to throw my cards in with Estragon on this one.
I was flipping through this a few days ago trying to find some good examples I could take for ideas (or exact positions ) to drill beginners on positional concepts.
And although it's a good book, and the examples are fairly simple, I felt like it was too advanced and (much like Estragons post actually) went back to simple tactics and advice on not hanging your pieces.
If he just has to buy a book though, this is a good recommendation.
"Why must I lose my point to this idiot!"
Sorry though, I do think there are many more vastly intelligible books than Nimzostuff...
I don't think as highly of it as some do -- I think it may be a matter of taste. I hear some players (like Estragon) talk about how they've read it a dozen times, and think to myself it must be good. I mean I think it's good... but not the best :)
thanks again as always, you guys always come through.
I WORK AT the entrance to our county zoo seaso nal two dAYS A WEEK AND HAVE BEEN LOADING UP A BAG WITH CHESS BOOKS TO READ.
TODAY, I WAS READING MY SYSTEM BY NIMSOWITCH, COMPLETE BOOK OF STRATEGY BY JEREMY SILMAN AND THE ART OF POSITIONAL PLAY BY SAMUEL
RESTREVESKY, ALL THESE BOOKS addressed some imbalances such as timing and space, threats etc./
thanks again and yes many other chess players i know recommended tactics.
thanks antne003, tony
Yeah, honestly it's hard for me to make these recommendations (although admittedly that never seems to stop me...oops!)...because I read all these things a while back, and granted, I don't take into consideration too well my strength at the time I came upon them. Really though tactics is king, like you say (Teichman's quote is the prime one...although I think maybe he left out a few .9's...)
Along Tonydal and Tony,
I agree tactics is king, but in my friend's antne003 case we must encourage him to get the basic's down first! But reading chess books if you have the time is interesting is fun as your learning more about the game.
Mahalo for everyone's inputs! :-)
I've heard this comment often, so it's not an argument on my part. I'm just seeking to understand. What's the harm in opening preparation for live chess?
Example One: I'm glad I know to play 2...Nc6 after 1.e4 e5 2.Qh5. I used to get clobbered after 2.Qh5, but not anymore.
Example Two: I like playing 2.d4 after 1.e4 e5, but that was after some study into the reason behind this move. And 2.d4 is useful, because 1...e5 is a common response to 1.e4.
Example Three: I like playing 2.d4 after 1.e4 c5 for the same reasons.
Example Four: 1...c5 usually stumps my opponents after they play 1.d4. They pause and think while the clock ticks. I like that, and I know what the best next replies are for both sides, and why the moves are good ones.
This does not take much time to learn and it helps me to get off to a good start.
Sometimes I feel funny giving out this advice about openings because... I did the exact same thing it sounds like you're doing (and I think it's good too). 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 f6 3.Nxe5 fxe5 4.Qh5+ g6 5.Qe5+ and Q takes rook killed me more than once when I was beginning. So after the game I would put it into my chessmaster computer which also an opening tree.
Then I stopped falling for the most common traps, and I would do this whenever I just felt really uncomfortable in an opening or if I lost really fast out of an opening. I'd put it into the computer or use an opening explorer type of thing to see what my good options were. Slowly, and on a need to know basis, this built my opening knowledge.
This is what I suggest others to do. Not to completely ignore openings, but don't buy an opening book, which will dive over 10+ moves deep into many variations and sidelines within the variations. I feel like just now are my peers starting to get the better of me by knowing openings well and I've had to suffer buying an opening book or two. I'd never noticed before, but they really aren't written at all for beginners, and sometimes I feel like they're too dense for my level... like they're written for masters. I just don't see a 1500 rated player for example getting much out of an opening book at all. For one thing when are they ever going to get a chance to use it when their peers leave book in 5 moves?
Anyway it sounds like what you're doing is exactly correct. You're finding good moves to use that you're comfortable playing and against the openings you most commonly run into. Buy a book on the Sicilian for example, and they may have 80 pages devoted to a variation that appears on move 6 that you've never even seen before... and on the moves that look scary to you, they don't even mention what to do in case your opponent does ______ :p (they assume a certain level of player is buying the book).
So if you're thinking like me, who needs that crap, let masters be the ones prepared to bash out 15 moves of theory in (nearly) any line you play.
FRANK AND THE REST OF THE MEMBERS, I AGAIN APPRECIATE THE HELP YOU HAVE GIVEN ME, I HAVE ARON NIMOSOVITCH BOOK, SILMANS ON COMPLETE STRATEGIES. I ALSO PRE-ORDERED SILMAN'S NEWEST BOOK ON 4TH EDITION ON IMBALANCES IN CHESS.
THANKS antne003, tony from jersey shore
FRANK, MAHALO FOR YOUR COMMENT
Then I stopped falling for the most common traps, and I would do this whenever I just felt really uncomfortable in an opening or if I lost really fast out of an opening. I'd put it into the computer or use an opening explorer type of thing to see what my good options were. Slowly, and on a need to know basis, this built my opening knowledge. Word.
100% agreement. Thank you for the perspective and sharing one of the methods you used to improve as a chess player. We are on the same page.
After playing two OTB games with my 7th grade daughter, she got excited about learning tactics. I set my tactics trainer to unrated (600) and I could see the wheels turning in her brain. She is now seeing checks, captures, forks and simple mating patterns. Tactics trainer works!!
It may be worthwhile resurecting this important topic.
Yes, I find tactics training useful on Chess.com, especially in learning mode, when you have time to think (as in a normal game), and where you can try this or that (too hit or miss, until you see the light and have the confidence to try it).
However, I have found Silman's lessons in Chessmentor to be the most rewarding. Concepts like opening development of all (or most) of your pieces, calculating how many times a square is attacked and defended, etc. have become automatic. I have even tried "to do a Tal" and almost succeeded (I could not resist the challenge!)
Some of Silman's recent books are:
Silman, Jeremy "The Amateur's Mind: Turning Chess Misconceptions into Chess Mastery"
Silman, Jeremy "How to Reassess Your Chess, Fourth edition"
Jeremy Silman "The Reassess Your Chess Workbook"
Unless you are a GM, I would be including these books on any reading list.
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