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Chess in the school curriculum? Good idea or bad idea?


  • 3 years ago · Quote · #1

    daveyjay

    Has anyone got any experience to share on this topic?

    Thanks, Daveyjay 

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #2

    Nytik

    Studies show that students who get taught chess at school get higher grades across the board (and not because chess is taught at schools with better students). I'll try to find a referrence.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #3

    Kupov

    "Studies".

    Wow! Good thing you have such a reliable and verifiable source!

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #4

    Nytik

    Kupov wrote:

    "Studies".

    Wow! Good thing you have such a reliable and verifiable source!


    May I direct you to the part of my post that says "I'll try to find a referrence", indicating that I have forgotten the original source of the experiment and will attempt to locate it?

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #5

    daveyjay

    Cheers Nytik.  I appreciate your interest and look forward to your update.  Wink

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #6

    Kupov

    Nytik wrote:
    Kupov wrote:

    "Studies".

    Wow! Good thing you have such a reliable and verifiable source!


    May I direct you to the part of my post that says "I'll try to find a referrence", indicating that I have forgotten the original source of the experiment and will attempt to locate it?


    I sort of doubt that those studies have been done on a scale that could be considered accurate.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #7

    EvanVonVan

    School-sponsored chess clubs would not be a good idea (at least for high school)

    Young students interested in chess should just go down to the local recreational center, and usually they have chess programs.

    UTD (the college I attend) has a nationally-ranked chess club which I am afraid to try and enter, for fear of becoming psychologically destroyed and put off of chess forever.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #8

    mschosting

    chess as proven to do great for kids in school expecially at yong ages such as 8-12 in Portugal (and all over europe)there are some schools starting to teach chess, expecially private ones. The general feeling by the teachers and parents is that the kids tend to be more focused in school and grow interest for boring stuff as math Laughing

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #9

    Nytik

    Kupov wrote:
    Nytik wrote:
    Kupov wrote:

    "Studies".

    Wow! Good thing you have such a reliable and verifiable source!


    May I direct you to the part of my post that says "I'll try to find a referrence", indicating that I have forgotten the original source of the experiment and will attempt to locate it?


    I sort of doubt that those studies have been done on a scale that could be considered accurate.


    Even so, wouldn't you be surprised if playing chess had no impact on exam results? Considering the problem solving skills etc.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #10

    TheGrobe

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #11

    AnthonyCG

    Chess is a game, so why would it be in a curriculum? Scrable is also an excellent learning tool but I wouldn't expect to be graded for it lol. Now LUNCH - there's a class I'd sign up for.
  • 3 years ago · Quote · #12

    Scarblac

    Nytik wrote:

    Even so, wouldn't you be surprised if playing chess had no impact on exam results? Considering the problem solving skills etc.


    But on the other hand, time spent on chess is not spent on other things. And I doubt chess is a particularly good way to teach problem solving, and whether it adds much to the problem solving skills kids already acquire from doing problems in other classes.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #13

    chris1011

    i believe people who learn chess are smarter just like people who read regularly or people who play instruments are smarter

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #14

    Nytik


    Thanks very much TheGrobe, that's just the sort of thing I was looking for!

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #15

    AnthonyCG


    But why chess? Aren't there other games that also fit the bill? Why not go, shoji, scrabble, crosswords? There are also video games out there that can have these effects.
  • 3 years ago · Quote · #17

    zq-man

    this is my first time posting, but I agree with AnthonyCG

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #18

    richie_and_oprah

    AnthonyCG wrote:

     

    But why chess? Aren't there other games that also fit the bill? Why not go, shoji, scrabble, crosswords? There are also video games out there that can have these effects.

    Why?  Because there are several large not-for-profits that are making large $$ on brining it into the schools, that is why.  Because there are people that play chess and they wish to be "professionals" and earn a living and their hope is that by making it more mainstream, this can be accomplished.

     

    Spending time teaching kids math makes more sense and pays better dividends.  There are a host of other pursuits that would all show accross the board that they provide some types of benefits to kids.

    Spelling Bees, Geography, Science Fairs, all these things are good.  The arts, museum trips, even Canasta would be shown to have some positive effects if it were studied with the goal of finding some!

     

    The idea that Chess is somehow elevated above all other things is the work of fantastic PR by some intelligent ad wizards that pretend to be anti-capitalist while earning high level $$ in the employ of not-for-profits.

     

    Bokononism at its most brilliant and efficient level.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #19

    FudgemanofDOOM

    unless they're going to teach the history of scrabble, connect 4, shoots and ladders, and other board games, i suggest just leaving it out.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #20

    mschosting

    zq-man wrote:

    this is my first time posting, but I agree with AnthonyCG


    really poor post for a first time! :) Chess as to be the best simply because I like it! Smile

    not kiding chess really improves on yout concentration skills

    Gives you the need to have a strategical view of the board to be able to play

    An huge ammount of real life strategy such as the ones pointed out by Kasparov in "How chess imitates life" or even in that much less know book by that very badly know author Sun Tzu "The Art of War"

    So we can say it prepares kids for the competitive world?

    They are envolved in sport, so less time for drugs and other risk behavior by the pupils

    If they are learning it as a group it helps them development relationships.

    Its good for your memory altough not proved that chess players have a better memory then regular persons, its proven that the fact they are using the brain to remember moves keeps brain cells active and that prevents them from dying.

    People who play chess are seen as "smarter" then the average by non playing people that as to be an advantage, it even help to insert chess in your resume! Wink

    Piece counting is an essential part of chess playing so you are always facing the need to do simple math, and it is well know that people don't improve on math by doing the hard exercices, but on repeating for an endless number of times simple math such as 2+3 or 8+7 etc, youl develop your brain in a way this tipe of thing is just automatic. So yes chess does improve your math skills.

    Chess is fun and "pratical" in the sense kids do move the pieces and touch the board so they feel more connected to the game and the activity leaving them more interested.

    There are more points about why chess is great to teach, ill let others say something about it now!


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