Chess is a Repetitive game that does not require high intelligence

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8th January 2009, 05:41pm
#21
by victhestick
Batavia, IL United States
Member Since: Sep 2008
Member Points: 1691

     It's true, a well trained monkey could play.

 

 

 

               if it's IQ is 140+

8th January 2009, 05:49pm
#22
by slimedog
colorado springs United States
Member Since: Dec 2008
Member Points: 6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_O09lH9e0g&feature=channel_page

a video done in the spirit of your comment

8th January 2009, 06:09pm
#23
by chess_kebabs
Australia
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 25365

1000 moves hey?...hmmmmm. Well, then I am about 0.005% on my way!

8th January 2009, 06:18pm
#24
by cowsreallymoo
Somewhere In The Great United States
Member Since: Nov 2008
Member Points: 214
ajedresdetorre wrote:

Hey! Don't get me wrong, people. I just read, copied and pasted this comment from one of the FICS (free internet chess server)

I just want to see your "violent" reactions, if any. (lol)

"GuestXSYG(U)(53): nope. chess is a repetitive game that does not require high intelligence"


that might be true but to be very good, intelligence is required. 

8th January 2009, 06:26pm
#25
by bigpoison
Gilmore Township, Michigan United States
Member Since: Dec 2008
Member Points: 701

I don't know about the rest of you; however, I do know that when I've finished playing a challenging game, my brain hurts.

8th January 2009, 06:28pm
#26
by rockviper
Ajax, ON Canada
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 84

As the wiseman Homer Simpson once said...

"I am so smart.... S-M-R-T"

8th January 2009, 06:44pm
#27
by 4m4z1ng
New York City United States
Member Since: Sep 2008
Member Points: 104

If chess DID require high intelligente, then we have already achieved an extremely high level of artificial intelligence.

 

Since Deep Blue and such have chess mastered, does that mean they have high intelligence?

 

I say no.

8th January 2009, 07:25pm
#28
by boots9548
memphis United States
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 98

you know what's interesting about Fischer though? most of his friends and few close associates said that he wasn't really that remarkable in anything but chess really. they said he was a very bright individual but it wasn't until you saw him play a game of chess that you realized his genius.

I would have to say that the game of chess just to be played at a decent level does not require high intelligence just hard study and lots of playing experience. Now to play at a master level you may have to have a little better than average intelligence.i wouldn't know because i dont play at a master level.(yet!.. workin on it though! lol :)

8th January 2009, 07:57pm
#29
by neospooky
Virginia United States
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 234
4m4z1ng wrote:

If chess DID require high intelligente, then we have already achieved an extremely high level of artificial intelligence.

Since Deep Blue and such have chess mastered, does that mean they have high intelligence?

I say no.


Deep Blue didn't build itself and sit there learning chess.  It was given a set of guidelines by a highly intelligent human on how to play.  Don't confuse the mechanism of play with the intelligence behind it.

If I moved all my pieces with a stick, would you say it didn't take intelligence because the stick made all the moves?

8th January 2009, 09:19pm
#30
by TonightOnly
Phoenix, AZ United States
Member Since: Jun 2007
Member Points: 1521

He must be pretty new to the game to have that kind of misconception.

9th January 2009, 01:17am
#31
by artfizz
South (GMT) +rT United Kingdom
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 3380
ajedresdetorre wrote:

Hey! Don't get me wrong, people. I just read, copied and pasted this comment from one of the FICS (free internet chess server)

I just want to see your "violent" reactions, if any. (lol)

"GuestXSYG(U)(53): nope. chess is a repetitive game that does not require high intelligence"


I agree. It's a lot like posting in the forums.

Just learn how the pieces move - and you can play chess.

9th January 2009, 02:39am
#32
by chess_kebabs
Australia
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 25365

I've been busy sharpening my skewers.....anyone scared....ANYONE in particular....does the song "A little ray of sunshine" give any clues... 

9th January 2009, 06:52am
#33
by johnmartin
London United Kingdom
Member Since: Nov 2008
Member Points: 48

There is obvious an element of repetition as there is in general life or in science, computer programming etc, in that if we have a problem here we will usually see if we recognise the problem as one we have had before or whether there exists already a "solution" somewhere else. We may also try to recognise a pattern or use a solution from a similar but different problem etc.

Intelligence is needed partly from deciding to use an existing solution or "create" a new one. If we are solving a chess puzzle we may at first see if it has solution or idea we recognise from a previous puzzle, and if not try to find a new one.

If you could store billions of chess games and easily access this it may be possible to reduce chess to mainly repetition ie playing best move from a stored chess game but that assumes could deduce at what point was one move better than another move in all of the possible games to choose from.

Intelligence takes many different forms. Just because say someone is great at maths doesn’t mean they are good at English etc. And again here we recognise similar existing  “solutions” or patterns. Chess does take intelligence but not the same as say to write a novel etc.

9th January 2009, 07:07am
#34
by hondo4504
Detroit United States
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 48

As much as I want to defend all chess players please spell your words correctly in all your comments- don't give this simpleton any ammo for that ridiculous comment!

9th January 2009, 07:45am
#35
by onosson
Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 727

Perhaps the true answer is that repetition is one of the most basic foundations of intelligence...

9th January 2009, 07:51am
#36
by Phelon
California United States
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 1156

and now that this topic has gotten past page one people will not read the original comment and post serious replies Laughing

9th January 2009, 08:04am
#37
by Queenie
London House United Kingdom
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 1813

What is intelligence? Can anyone answer that? After all and think about this before you reply, not knowing does not make you unintelligent, its just that 'you don't know what you don't know'!

9th January 2009, 12:18pm
#38
by Ray_Brooks
Heart of Darkness England
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 2166
Queenie wrote:

What is intelligence? Can anyone answer that? After all and think about this before you reply, not knowing does not make you unintelligent, its just that 'you don't know what you don't know'!


How do you know that? Laughing

10th January 2009, 03:16am
#39
by uritbon
tel aviv Israel
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 1000

it is a repetitive game that does not require inteligence, but there are so many possabilities that the probability that a dumb guy will make a good move is too low.

10th January 2009, 05:42am
#40
by victhestick
Batavia, IL United States
Member Since: Sep 2008
Member Points: 1691

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     trying to play chess without intelligence is like trying to fire a

          weapon without ammunition


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