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Let's go back to the original question. You were given an approximate rating os 1200 as a benchmark. Everyone has to start somewhere. What you do with that beginning is your business.
Ratings are like badges and certificates, they dont mean anything, what matters is what you do and produce. If you want a true rating then play for real in tournaments and play against "rated" players, for me the online chess ratings have no meaning, using the explore features and anlysis features is not something you can do across a real board, you need to do it in your head, I am not good enough to know if im playing someone who is using Fritz or Rybka or whatever, so i dont bother worrying about, I play, i either win or lose, if im 270 or 2700 it means nothing in the end, it is only each game you play that matters at all, and in the real end we all end up in the same box (in chess and life).
I play Chess because i can and i enjoy it, the end.
How do you calculate your score when you're playing in person? Say I go to my local chess club and sign up to play a rated game, since I've never been there do I start at 1200 like here online?
How do you know how many points to add or subtract after your win/loss?
...go with the flow....
For USCF games, you can use this to estimate your ratings change. (The actual formula they use is too complicated to be able to get the EXACT amount your rating will change.)
You don't start at 1200 or any particular spot - they look at your first few games and see how you did. If you get 2 wins and 3 losses against people with ratings around 1800, then you'll start out with a rating around 1720, for example.
Can chess.com relate their rating to an individual abstract I.Q. Somehow I believe that skilled player must have high abstract reasoning. Every puzzle require intelligence in solving. Every game I believe need abstract intelligence. I hope a study will be done with regard to this subject for all people to know. With it, chess has it's valid purpose in the world and eventually be alive and kicking again.
Can chess.com relate their rating to an individual abstract I.Q.
Not with any degree of accuracy. The "problem" here is that people get better with practice. If you play 500 games of chess, memorize some openings and endgames, use the Tactics Trainer, etc., you will not be inherently more intelligent, but you will probably get better at chess and your rating will go up.
But there are some people who beginners in chess played better than season ones. Though they take more time making a move, yet they are good. Could there be some relationship between high abstract I.Q. people to better beginner player in chess? I think so. Because even if you practice often, during the middle and end game, moves can differ. It requires a little critical thinking to enable to win.
If you are good at Chess then you are good at Chess thats it.
Chess IQ and generic IQ are different things, even generic IQ has a multitude of different tests all of which differ.
IQ is about as realistically measurable as Ron Jeremys sex life.
I am refering to abstract I.Q. specifically. Somehow a person who has a higher abstract reasoning has a better chance of being a good chess player. Though I agree with you we have different intelligence, abstract is an ability to look at things and easily knows what the pattern of it.
I have an apparent high IQ (being a member of Mensa and formerly a member of Prometheus but i dont keep up my annual membership) and I also have an eidetic memory (non specific) meaning it only applies to certain subjects which I cannot control.
Yet my Chess sucks and my mental arithmetic is appalling (better than average I guess but overall pretty poor I think)
So the whole general thing about High IQ and Chess are definately not true and I have read many studies on it too and there doesnt seem to be any direct correlation, there are good chess players with low IQ's depending on the test or at least unremarkable, and there are poor players with bell curve blowing scores.
What I think is that the people who create these tests (often some type of psychologists) need to be a bit more intelligent themselves ;-)
I hate psych* anything.
I agree. Different people have different intelligence.
Why then did I go down from 1200 (to 1361) when I beat someone who has a rating above 1200 (1089)?? Admittedly don't have time to read the article... but hoping someone knows how this works anyway!
But, you failed to see that in chess, 1361 is higher by 161 points, not lower by 161 points.
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