I am currently running a survey in order to prove a hypothesis I have that involves students grades and chess intelligence, or, in essence, ratings. For those of you who would like to aid me, please simply post G.P.A.'s and your chess rating( either on the site here or from rated tournaments you have participated, just please specify.) Any questions could be posted here, if needed, and I will be happy to get back to you on it.
Thank you in advance,
KF1
you could be bias in picking up your subject that way... unless you get the whole group... your were trying to correlate with chess intelligence.. right. There were bright and diligent students who's not well in chess and bright students who do well in chess, on the other hand there are students who where very lazy yet very good at chess and some lousy students who are not good in chess at all. It's true that GPA has lot to do with effort and I agree, general intelence that is but spicifically with chess intelligence, it's dependent on your subject if he/she know how to play chess.
People who play chess have different levels. GPA is an assessment of a person/student as a whole. therefore what ever results you will be having will always be impartial. I have a neighbor who did not even reach high school and yet some how good at playing chess. One best friend of mine was very deligent and study very hard but grades were not good enough. was even kicked out of school for failing on 2 subjects. My point is not undermining your hypothesis, but merely explaining that one cannot compare GPA with absolute correlation or tendency to excel in chess. That is why my results proves it partial since not all students know how to play chess.
Inteligence to be corelated to GPA yes, but not specific to chess inteligence...
If you try to prove your hypothesis here in this site, your results will not be accurate unless you see their actual GPA results. But if you do it by seeing theirng their actual GPA results and chess ratings...then you know what i'm talking about.
Anyway good luck and may you prove your hypothesis unbiased. 2types of player here... humble and too proud, how would you know which is which. If your data is not accurate and cannot be verrified then your results wil be falsely interpreted. It's like working on a manipulated data therefore not valid at all.
When you test hypothesis, you must rely on facts or verifyable, observable accurate data.
God bless...good luck.
When you test hypothesis, you must rely on facts or verifyable, observable accurate data. You don't even have data to identify you in your profile and yet you rely on trust that people will give you untarnished data.
Also, GPA varies widely school to school...a 4.0 at one school doesn't necessarily map on to a 4.0 at another harder/easier school.
Also, 3.6571 and 1407 (chess.com)
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Eh, probability. I am a high school dropout, I just started getting serious at chess and I wouldn't consider myself off to a bad start.
The problem that I have with the assumption that a G.P.A has anything to do with intelligence is that in order to get a high G.P.A you have to put forth effort in schooling. Bobby Fischer did not do well in school, he did not care.
Now on another note, yes a HIGH G.P.A. does require intelligence. But a low G.P.A does not require stupidity (in a sense of I.Q., yes I am a moron for not taking school serious but I am offended if someone takes me for dumb kid.)
I believe a study like this would be a little off the wall and unreliable. I think you will find everything but solid results. While the results may show some sort of medium it will not prove anything at all.
BTW I dropped out because I just didn't like school, I never did homework, I slept all day in class, and I stayed home atleast once a week. I passed all of my 9th grade OHIO proficiencies in 8th grade and this is while I had straight F's all throughout 7th and 8th, I was only passed through because it's actually impossible to fail middle school without being held back by parents. I was a good at tests I just could care less for waking up every morning and doing homework after school.
Tell you what. I had a classmate who was so fascinated with chess he would sit in the back of the class and play chess on a small set on his own! Most teachers didn't pay attention. He was, after all, popular in the school as a serious player. He went on to win a town tournament, but never heard of him after graduating.
The point is - he was a struggling student with exceptional chess skills. So here is my hypothesis:
If you know playing chess well, you are well educated. If you know playing chess too well, you have wasted your adolescence....
maybe you just had easy exams........could be a multiple of reasons.
The suggestions that it may be a faulty assumption that a higher GPA would correlate to higher chess ability are reasonable objections- I suppose that is why the survey would be an interesting one to conduct. Help the man get his data to test his claim- any finding that is backed with some actual survey data would be better than the numerous speculations that are being thrown out here.
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