If you are playing an opponent that has material to checkmate you, but you don't have any material to checkmate him and then he runs out of time. Is that a draw?

Yes, that is a draw.

No it's not a draw it's a win for the opponent who still has time remaining.

If your opponent runs out of time they lose, regardless of how much material they have, end of story.

 

Red

Loomis is correct.  Red is incorrect.  Nothing personal , Red.  Its a blitz chess rule,  I doubt whether this could happen in normal limit OTB play.

tx, dident know that rule

Thanks for that info.

Is blitz what he's asking about? (no offence taken )

In normal games if you run out of time you lose reagardless

Red

Now I'm confused...but that doesn't take much these days.

If I flag (otb chess) but my opponent has only a K left the game is a draw, since he cannot possibly checkmate me. I believe this applies to all time controls in otb chess.

Of course, this is part of chess at any speed. Mating material is required to win against worst play. The next thing to learn is what is considered "mating material." FIDE and national federations have the rules online and/or in print. One example may seem ridiculous: K+B v K is a draw, but K+B v K+B is a draw only if the bishops are the same color not opposite colors. Not checking the rules is ridiculous for experienced players. Newcomers are entitled to a learning curve.

Okay, so if I have ample material to checkmate someone, and he cannot possibly checkmate me, and my time runs out, it's a draw? No matter what type of game we're playing?

StacyBearden wrote: Okay, so if I have ample material to checkmate someone, and he cannot possibly checkmate me, and my time runs out, it's a draw? No matter what type of game we're playing?

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Yes, it is a draw.

Thanks!

GreenLaser wrote: Of course, this is part of chess at any speed. Mating material is required to win against worst play. The next thing to learn is what is considered "mating material." FIDE and national federations have the rules online and/or in print. One example may seem ridiculous: K+B v K is a draw, but K+B v K+B is a draw only if the bishops are the same color not opposite colors. Not checking the rules is ridiculous for experienced players. Newcomers are entitled to a learning curve.

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 It seems ridiculous, but in fact some bad endgame play could make it applicable.

Checkmate.

Yes, it seems (my word) ridiculous. The above position is what the rule provides for. Mating material is defined by the worst defense. The players may or may not be near such a position when the flag falls. At least with opposite bishops, both players have the same opportunity to achieve such a win. In many cases, only one player can win on the board leaving open the possibility of a time win.

I would suspect that if such a situation arose in CC, that one side would offer a draw and the other side would accept it since the time control is generally days/move, not moves/time period and eventually the 50 move rule would come into play anyway.

I've got to say peeps  that the draw in that situation is rediculous. Time controls were introduced to stop people from taking too long a time thinking (like going on vacation). If a player wants to waste time by thinking too long over moves then so be it, but his opponent should not be penalised because of it if it comes down to lack of material. Thats just unfair. The rules of chess have been changed before and FIDE need to change this one.

Red

The rule as is stands is beautifully logical.

Sorry batgirl but someone running out of time and getting a draw because of it dose not sound logical to me

Red