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I once wrote a blog article on something related to this:
EDIT: Argh, I just screwed up the diagrams, fixing...
chess = no money even if you are a masterpoker = monies for everyone who put in reasonable effort into it (and isn't living in murica)
so one game is clearly better than the other
Wrong. In chess there's money. When you are good and you have sponsors and you play in the big tournaments world wide, etc.
oh sorry you are right. chase your dreams, kids!
you do realize that the group you mentioned are not even 0.1% of the chess regulars population, right? :P even being a low tier GM doesn't put you in that group.
[edit: as far as i know, most masters who make a living from chess actually mostly get it from teaching revenue (coaching/books/events)]
I cannot believe poker on TV still is awful.
i liked the world series of poker, do they still have the 2 moderators of whom 1 always makes jokes about his wife...
yeah a bit lame but i find them very entertaining.
ALso the players are fun too, its all show. but i think they are doing great, how can you not like it???
the main event wasnt too bad in my opinion
the main events isn't over. Isn't it ironic that the match for poker world champion is 1 week before match for chess world champion...
Poker World Champion: November 4-5
Chess World Champion: November 6-26
Ok put it this way. Im a poker player and a poker dealer for WSOP. i dealt hundreds if not thousands of hands already and i see almost everything. So im talking as a poker palyer that poker even tho its a game of skill and strategy, its also a LOT of luck involved and a lot of variance. I mean a LOT. If you wanna compare both games, Chess has way more skills than poker, there is no luck or variance whatsoever in Chess. Its simple, better man in Chess wins. Poker has more psychology than Chess. Both games has the goods and the bads. Poker, if you dont paly with $$$ its not fun, however Chess you can play 100s of games a day for free and not get bored, you can even play vs yourself LOL. Poker you can make more money in a long run ( or loose) but lets stay positive haha. Chess you will never make it. Thats for non humans like Magnus or Kasparov or Fisher and many others. To wrap it up they are both really good games. In my own experience i use Chess for logical thinking when im emotional down in poker. I hope it helps and good luck with the threesome LOL!!!
Chess is mostly skill but chess has its points where you can bluff and the opponent thinks you're doing something while in reality your opponent is going after your decoy and the real threat beats your opponent is one example. Just look at last week's final match between Aronian and Carlsen at the Sinquefield Cup. Both players are rated over 2750+ and Aronian lost really bad.
It's true, just look at Anand/Carlsen match. There were a lot of moves that nobody had seen except for the players that were playing. So chess does have luck and you can bluff in chess and win on bluff moves as well. Also known as decoy moves, etc.
I don't see the connection. How does the fact that Carlsen / Anand saw things that spectators did not see in any way indicate the presence of luck and bluffing in chess?? All it means is that these players are more skilled at the game than the specators / commentators.
Despite what some might think, skill and luck are actually different things.
Chess is a perfect information game. It is all there for you to see. There are psychological moves so I think that is a siilarity. Some players contain their emotions better than others on and off the board. That being said aside for the "bluffing" component, they are vastly different games.
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