Chess World belongs to Indians

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25th August 2008, 05:21am
#1
by Palmerim
Brazil
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 10

World champion Viswanathan Anand once again underlined his dominance as he won the Rapid World Chess Championship in Mainz three weeks ago. He has now won the tournament 11 times in its 13 years of existence, including the last nine times in a row! Anand took over the top ranking in chess in April 2007 and later in the same year captured the World Chess Championships.

You kidding me, Magnus? Vishy Anand gives his young opponent the glare

The reigning World Champion against the player many consider to be the coming World Champion. But Anand used his experience and skill to show why he is the world’s number one. He gave his young opponent no chances and defended his title of Grenkeleasing Rapid Chess World Champion without trouble.

The World Junior Championship was held in Gaziantep between 2-16 August, the sixth largest city and one of the major economic centers in Turkey. Abhijeet Gupta and Harika Dronavalli, both from India, won the World Junior titles.

19-year-old Indian GM Abhijeet Gupta

He became the third Indian ever to win the World Junior (after Anand and Harikrishna). He did it after winning his last five games in a row, with 10/13 points. Second was 15-year-old Indian GM Parimarjan Negi.

IM Harika Dronavalli

The girls' section was won by Indian IM Harika Dronavalli, who finished a point and a half ahead of her nearest rival.

So India is a chess country with the world champion, both world junior champions and many more talents on the way.

25th August 2008, 05:57am
#2
by dwaxe
Thousand Oaks, California United States
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 1044

Old news, it's many weeks old already. Nice OP, but what are we supposed to discuss?

You should post something like this in a blog.

25th August 2008, 06:25am
#3
by artfizz
South (GMT) +rT United Kingdom
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 3209

dwaxe wrote:

... Nice OP, but what are we supposed to discuss? ...


  1. "Where did all those Indians come from?"
  2. Why is India currently dominant in chess?
  3. Do Indians play in a different style to Russians, say?
  4. Are Indians more courteous during (tournament) play than Canadians, say?
  5. How good are Indians at resigning?
  6. Why aren't top Indian players called Chiefs? (NC, IC, FC and GC)
  7. Is the chess world becoming bottom-heavy with too many Indians and not enough chiefs?
25th August 2008, 06:40am
#4
by Palmerim
Brazil
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 10

Oh God! I am not talking about news, I am talking about a fact, a phenomenon in chess world. Indians has always been considered poor, ignorant people who worship cows and mice, with no chess tradition and now they seem to be on their way to the top, not only in chess but in other matters too. I think this is something to think about, and also a topic to discuss. I know that russians and  americans must be upset about this.  Maybe most of them do not like to talk about this, but I like to.

25th August 2008, 06:46am
#5
by golem3
International
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 255

Wow, Palmerim, you sound really foolish in post #5. I don't think those assumptions existed anywhere, anytime, even as far back as before British rule.

 

Need to get some assumptions checked out, friend.

25th August 2008, 06:54am
#6
by eternal21
New Jersey Poland
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 399

Palmerim wrote:

Oh God! I am not talking about news, I am talking about a fact, a phenomenon in chess world. Indians has always been considered poor, ignorant people who worship cows and mice, (...)


Don't forget about throwing infants off the buildings :) :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqwV8o5j2Kg&feature=user

25th August 2008, 06:57am
#7
by direwolfe
Princeton, NJ United States
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 78

No chess tradition?  Wasn't chess invented in India?

25th August 2008, 06:59am
#8
by Palmerim
Brazil
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 10

golem3 wrote:

Wow, Palmerim, you sound really foolish in post #5. I don't think those assumptions existed anywhere, anytime, even as far back as before British rule.

 

Need to get some assumptions checked out, friend.


Ok golem3, you are right! I am really sorry for my foolish post. Forget it, please. And thanks for making me think about my wrong assumptions

25th August 2008, 07:02am
#9
by dextorous_demon
New Paltz, New York United States
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 138

Yeah, Palmerin. You obviously don't know a thing about India and chess. Oh, and by the way, check out Mir Sultan Khan, who managed to beat Capablanca in 1930. And yet, he hadn't even learned European chess till much later in his career.

25th August 2008, 07:05am
#10
by Evil_Homer
Dublin Ireland
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 1750

eternal21 wrote:

Palmerim wrote:

Oh God! I am not talking about news, I am talking about a fact, a phenomenon in chess world. Indians has always been considered poor, ignorant people who worship cows and mice, (...)


Don't forget about throwing infants off the buildings :) :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqwV8o5j2Kg&feature=user


 Scary stuff this! Your kids would be taken off you in most other countries in the world.

25th August 2008, 07:15am
#11
by Palmerim
Brazil
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 10

dextorous_demon wrote:

check out Mir Sultan Khan, who managed to beat Capablanca in 1930. And yet, he hadn't even learned European chess till much later in his career.


This doesn't seems to show any chess tradition in India, not for me...

25th August 2008, 07:30am
#12
by eternal21
New Jersey Poland
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 399

Nobody thinks india is a backward country.  At least not in the USA.  We think of you guys as computer science experts.  I know half the people in my class were indian.

25th August 2008, 01:59pm
#13
by dextorous_demon
New Paltz, New York United States
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 138

Sorry, Palmerin. I forgot to clarify that Khan was a champion of INDIAN STYLE CHESS. Besides that, Chess.com is frequented by Indians the most behind 1.USA 2.Great Britain and 3.Canada  http://www.chess.com/members/member_countries.html. That's all I care to say.

25th August 2008, 05:09pm
#14
by Bodhidharma
Australia
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 294

eternal21 wrote:

Palmerim wrote:

Oh God! I am not talking about news, I am talking about a fact, a phenomenon in chess world. Indians has always been considered poor, ignorant people who worship cows and mice, (...)


Don't forget about throwing infants off the buildings :) :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqwV8o5j2Kg&feature=user


Was this what Michael Jackson was trying to do when he held his kid out of the balcony ?Laughing

Best chess players in the world ? Pah !!! With this start in life, Indians will be the best BASE jumpers, free fall skydivers, bungee jumpers in the world !!!!

25th August 2008, 05:27pm
#15
by Dahan
Saint Paul, MN United States
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 610

Palerim @ 5,

 

As others have stated, it seems that your own world view is a bit out of date. Americans and Russians don't like to talk about this sort of thing? What are you, stuck back in an early 1980's cold war bunker some place? 

" Indians have always been considered poor, ignorant people who worship cows and mice, with no chess tradition"

Again, Really? I've spent a lot of my life hanging around poorly educated middle class American's, and even they don't think that. Whoever's telling you that that's most American's way of thinking, etc. is lying to you. Time to stop listening to them.

 

25th August 2008, 06:14pm
#16
by RedSoxpawn
Birmingham, Alabama United States
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 24834

It is past time to stop listening, he should have stopped years ago

25th August 2008, 07:56pm
#17
by NM GreenLaser
Chester, NY United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 1432

Nobody has noticed that India has the world's largest middle class population. That success is supposed to lead to more success. If a marginal amount of what people produce is reinvested in more productivity each year, growth becomes noticeable. Someone knows that Russians and Americans are upset that India's chess players are doing well. That should be "knows" how 450 million people feel just because they are Russians and Americans. I find Americans who write about chess are less obviously nationalistic than writers from various other nations. An entire game with notes often does not mention the nationality of the players. Chess writers elsewhere more often identify the player in the notes without using the players' names. Instead they refer to "the Hungarian," or "the Peruvian," for example. When the Tal Memorial ends, I want to download the games and analyze them, without regard to the national origin of the players.

12th February 2009, 09:45am
#18
by Afonso_63
Rio de Janeiro Brazil
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 55

I believe that your issue was too controversial annoy everyone with the nationality or the popularity of certain people is important:

1 There is a great player in the growth of India.

2 - We must learn who is capable and if for any reason the ability to play a good chess is there we learn from them, if in Peru, France, no matter the Chess and the world and whatever the place he around dawn and we should target.

12th February 2009, 11:06am
#19
by NM tonydal
United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 4326

Dronavalli is certainly a babe.

 

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