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  • 13 months ago · Quote · #301

    nameno1had

    waffllemaster wrote:

    Computers aren't tuned to evaluate opening moves at all.  A program's preference of 1.c5 over 1.Nf3 for example is unrelated to the objective value of the move.

    For some reason, probably because I have a splitting headache, but also because I haven't really studied how engines are programmed to function, therefore, I really don't picture what you are saying very well.

    It seems to me by raw calculation, an engine will chose a response that is most likely a book reply to an opening. If it doesn't perhaps these replies could be considered as such. I see how they may chose lines that aren't as good as book openings, but something tells me that they could come up with positions that could possibly be comparable, in terms of effectiveness.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #302

    thecheesykid

    I've actually never really known an engine to calculate 1... c5 as its best first move so I think Houdini must have been using an opening book for this game. It generally considers e6 and e5 as better, but that's because wafflemaster is correct in that engines don't play their openings as well as humans can (but engines can get away with it). For instance a lot of engines will suggest 1. Nc3 (the Dunst opening), which I'm under the impression that some opening theorists think isn't fantastic. 

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #303

    ChristianSoldier007

    actually c5 is an engine move. there is no book

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #304

    thecheesykid

    Really?? How long did you let it run for? I'm running Houdini now and it's listing c5 as third, with e5 first and e6 second. Interesting.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #305

    ChristianSoldier007

    i actually dont rememberthe first time control, but I do remember it saying e5 right up to the move and then it popped out c5, which surprised me

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #306

    ChristianSoldier007

    HOUDINI PLAYS 9...CXD4

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #307

    ChaoChinKun

    Just noticed ...this is one badly organised...

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #308

    thecheesykid

    cxd4 obviously. Wait... what did we play on move 9? (edit: saw it, nbd2)

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #309

    StrategicPlay

    10. cxd4 is so obvious.

    Please update the moves in the original post.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #310

    ChaoChinKun

    10.cxd4

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #311

    Twpsyn

    cxd4

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #312

    ChristianSoldier007

    sorry guys, I'm really stretched right now. i will update the original post soon

  • 12 months ago · Quote · #313

    thecheesykid

    Is this still going?

  • 12 months ago · Quote · #314

    DaBigOne

    cxd4

  • 12 months ago · Quote · #315

    DaBigOne

    Christiansolider007, start a new forum, same topic, its getting annoying to go through all the other posts. Its confusing!

  • 12 months ago · Quote · #316

    ChristianSoldier007

    it seems to have died down, not many people are voting anymore

  • 12 months ago · Quote · #317

    jetfighter13

    cxd4

  • 12 months ago · Quote · #318

    thecheesykid

    You haven't confirmed the unanimous cxd and Houdini's response, so we're all waiting for that to happen.

  • 12 months ago · Quote · #319

    ChristianSoldier007

    ok I will. I just felt like there as been a lot less voting lately.

    Houdini's reply will be out shortly

  • 12 months ago · Quote · #320

    thecheesykid

    ChristianSoldier007 wrote:

    ok I will. I just felt like there as been a lot less voting lately.

    That's just because the recent move was obvious, don't get disheartened, people will come along once the position gets more interesting.


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