Classifiers of Errors

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6th April 2009, 03:35am
#1
by farbror
Uppsala Sweden
Member Since: May 2007
Member Points: 2420

Dan Heisman (“Mr Novis Nook”) has suggested that improving players should create a “Hall of Shame” of their canonical errors. The idea is to review your standard errors to reduce the risk of reusing them. It sounds as a great approach. In order to readily pinpoint the most common error types a classification system comes in handy. The trick is to come up with a useful classification system. It might be tempting to have a high resolution in the classification system but then the system will be of very little use for identifying “trends” in your error producing process.

 

I would very much like to have some input on the design of such a system (I intend to use the system as classifiers in Chess Assistant). How many error classes is appropriate? Should the errors be stratified by “phase of the game”? Any thoughts?

Here is a draft outline for a two-level system:

 

 

Classifiers for Errors

 

·        Tactical Errors

o   Calculation Error

o   Lack of Theory

·        Strategically Errors

o   Positional Evaluation Error

·        Psychological Errors

o   Lack of Attention

o   Lack of Imagination or Originality

o   Logical Errors

·        General Errors

o   Time Management Error

 

6th April 2009, 05:40am
#2
by farbror
Uppsala Sweden
Member Since: May 2007
Member Points: 2420

Agreed! It is some additional work but I think it will be useful!

6th April 2009, 06:43am
#3
by Helipacter
Santiago de Compostela Spain
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 124

I think that you do need a "phase of the game" classifier. That way you can spend a session a week going over each area - opening, midgame & endgame - when training.

Without this classifier then you will end up filing away errors in random ways - then when you need to study a certain part of your game you will end up wasting time looking through your files...

(PS, thanks for the link to the Chess Position Trainer! Incredibly useful!)

6th April 2009, 06:48am
#4
by farbror
Uppsala Sweden
Member Since: May 2007
Member Points: 2420

Agreed! I have seen a few attempts to classify errors but they have had "too much resolution".

 

I am glad you found the CPT link to be useful. Great!

6th April 2009, 11:21am
#5
by farbror
Uppsala Sweden
Member Since: May 2007
Member Points: 2420

Are there any Chess Assistant users out there who has done something similar?

6th April 2009, 11:31am
#6
by Eternal_Patzer
United States
Member Since: Mar 2009
Member Points: 321

I have found that my calculation errors, which are legion, often stem from psychological errors -- for example, (1) not finding my opponant's best defensive move because I wasn't working as hard to find his best moves as my own.  (2) not finding the best defense in a dense tactical forest because the complications seem overwhelming, (fear?  laziness?) with the result that I settle for a second best line that leaves me saddled with some positional weakness.

Am I the only one?

6th April 2009, 11:41am
#7
by 4theWIN
Chi United States
Member Since: Mar 2009
Member Points: 21

Where does boozing and hanging pieces categorize?

6th April 2009, 11:55am
#8
by JetSetter
United States
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 195

Amusing. Strategic Errors (misevaluation of the position) often lead to Tactical Errors. So...is it the chicken or the egg? Nope. The short list of blooper games should be wins and losses that illustrate a pattern of oversight on your part, which is achievable after you annotate all of your important games. For instance, I know I overlook lateral rook moves, but still won the only OTB rated game where it occurred with any significance...but it took annotating the game and thinking of the variations that I calculated to come to an understanding of why I overlook those moves.

6th April 2009, 12:01pm
#9
by uritbon
tel aviv Israel
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 1001

I have it all in my head, I remember all my games and never repeat my mistakes.

what's my name again??

6th April 2009, 12:08pm
#10
by wormrose
Lake Tahoe, NV United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 2984

Wrong Rook

6th April 2009, 12:08pm
#11
by shootfilm
Atlanta, Chicago, New York City United States
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 302
farbror wrote:

Dan Heisman (“Mr Novis Nook”) has suggested that improving players should create a “Hall of Shame” of their canonical errors. The idea is to review your standard errors to reduce the risk of reusing them. It sounds as a great approach. In order to readily pinpoint the most common error types a classification system comes in handy. The trick is to come up with a useful classification system. It might be tempting to have a high resolution in the classification system but then the system will be of very little use for identifying “trends” in your error producing process.

 

I would very much like to have some input on the design of such a system (I intend to use the system as classifiers in Chess Assistant). How many error classes is appropriate? Should the errors be stratified by “phase of the game”? Any thoughts?

Here is a draft outline for a two-level system:

 

 

Classifiers for Errors

 

·        Tactical Errors

o   Calculation Error

o   Lack of Theory

·        Strategically Errors

o   Positional Evaluation Error

·        Psychological Errors

o   Lack of Attention

o   Lack of Imagination or Originality

o   Logical Errors

·        General Errors

o   Time Management Error

 


I think this is a strong concept. I hope you don't mind me building a system for our students over at chess-coach with this idea in mind.

6th April 2009, 12:49pm
#12
by drmr4vrmr
baguio Philippines
Member Since: Jul 2008
Member Points: 463

u can add physical error:

1. tiredness

2. forgetfulness

3. illness

6th April 2009, 04:20pm
#13
by farbror
Uppsala Sweden
Member Since: May 2007
Member Points: 2420

Good points!

 

Physical factors are important. You need to eat/drink properly to keep focused during long games.

6th April 2009, 08:57pm
#14
by kissinger
seattle United States
Member Since: Dec 2008
Member Points: 455

seems like alot of needless overkill,just record your games and analyze what went on at the board...................just my opinion

6th April 2009, 09:18pm
#15
by farbror
Uppsala Sweden
Member Since: May 2007
Member Points: 2420

Well, "needless overkill" is perhaps a bit too strong. Still, It is of course a clear case of "diminishing returns": the change from "NOT analyzing your own games" to "analyzing your own games" will lead to greater improvement than adding the suggested approach. However, the suggested approach is likely to speed up the process of identifying your bad chess habbits.

6th April 2009, 09:40pm
#16
by Eternal_Patzer
United States
Member Since: Mar 2009
Member Points: 321

I think it's a great idea, all the more because in the process we not only find the mistakes, but the PATTERNS of mistakes -- and hopefully some of the bad chess habits that keep causing them.  We all have our own bad chess habits, but each one we can identify and eliminate, or at least minimize, should lead to real improvement in our games.  I appreciate the suggestion.

6th April 2009, 09:52pm
#17
by steevmartuns
Pennsylvania United States
Member Since: Nov 2008
Member Points: 526

Under "Strategical Errors," you made a very important omission: lack of a plan. Playing aimlessly often doesn't work in the long haul.

6th April 2009, 10:01pm
#18
by farbror
Uppsala Sweden
Member Since: May 2007
Member Points: 2420

Yes, "Lack of Plan" is  a good one! "No Plan" or "Not Ajusting the Plan" etc...

6th April 2009, 10:03pm
#19
by farbror
Uppsala Sweden
Member Since: May 2007
Member Points: 2420

Also, I have been thinking along the lines of a catch phrase that might cover aspects of "passive play" and "loosing the initiative"

6th April 2009, 10:33pm
#20
by The_Pitts
Plainfield Vermont (GMT-5) International
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 379
4theWIN wrote:

Where does boozing and hanging pieces categorize?


ROTFLMAO!

 

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