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Common rating plateaus


  • 19 months ago · Quote · #1

    Legilmens

    Just out of curiosity, what are some rating plateaus (please specify which system) you guys have been stuck at? What have you done to get out of them? Thanks.

  • 19 months ago · Quote · #2

    Estragon

    Hey, people hit plateaus at various levels, it is an individual thing.

    There are two basic approaches when you hit a plateau.  One is to take a break from chess completely, don't check the news or play at all for a period of time.  A few days to a few weeks or even months off, to clear your head and come back with a fresher outlook.

    The other is just to knuckle down and play through it. A few years ago Ivanchuk went through a rough few months, his rating plunged to 2702 and he was on the brink of dropping out of the top 50 for the first time since he was about 16.

    Nearly everyone was saying, "Look at his schedule, he is burnt out, he needs to take some time off!"  But Chucky just kept playing and soon he fought his way back into the top 10. 

    Most people will find one way or the other works best for them.  The only way to be sure is to try them both.

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #3

    gigagurdur

    i was mostly stuck at the 1000s and i am currently stuck at the 1100s [uscf]

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #4

    Phylar

    1200s is one spot. It is considered the average area for a reason.

    I've also noticed that 1600s can stopper quite a few people. Note sure why.

    Finally the classic 1999. Breaking into the 2000 range. Often difficult.

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #5

    Kosoku_Inazuma

    my uscf rating is around 1740 and has been there for a while now....cant seem to break 1800...but then again i havent played serious chess since 2012 so that could be it

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #6

    LongIslandMark

    Estragon wrote:

    [...] his rating plunged to 2702 [...]

    In my dreams....

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #7

    waffllemaster

    LongIslandMark wrote:
    Estragon wrote:

    [...] his rating plunged to 2702 [...]

    In my dreams....

    No kidding.  When the roughest part of your career was almost dropping out of the top 50 and almost going below 2700... hehe.

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #8

    ponz111

    I have a USCF rating plateau that may be one of the longest ever.

    2188 for 40 years.

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #9

    waffllemaster

    Yeah but if you stopped playing USCF events then that's an unfair advantage.

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #10

    ponz111

    waffile, true although I am not sure it is an advantage.  

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #11

    RobertJack

    When I first started playing chess I was stuck at that 800-900 range for well over a year. Then some of the intermediate tactics started to stick & I quickly shot up a over 1000 in a short period. Then only a few months later I reached the elusive 1200 mark and have been there for about 5 years (though sometimes I don't play for long periods, like entire years after I "quit"). These ratings are not official, but I have pretty much the same rating on chessmaster 10, 11, grandmaster edition, & here on chess.com. And when I used to play on yahoo I was rated around 1200. That seems to be my ceiling.

    I have also noticed that on chessmaster I can win or draw any opponent under 1300 and only lose if I am really not focusing. But, I have never had a victory against any of the 'personalities' over 1300, either losses or draws [(mostly losses) but I did get a draw once agains a personality rated over 2000 (game was only 23 moves and it forced the draw on me via 3 fold)].

    As I understand these ratings are benchmarks. I could be wrong...

    below 800 you know the moves and the rules.

    800 - 1200  beginner

    1200 - 1600 intermediate

    1600 - 1800 expert

    1800 - 2000 strong expert/master

    2000+ - Master/IM/GM

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #12

    chessmaster102

    I had one around the 1000-1100 range and then briely again getting out of the 1700s but I did read somewhere that based of statistics from a survey a big majority of players say getting out of the Class B (1600-1799) range was the toughest but I think most commonly someone will get stuck trying to break out of the 2400s if they even get to be that strong!

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #13

    DrCheckevertim

    Robert Jack, I'd say it's more like:

    0-1000  beginner

    1000-1400 advanced beginner (strong social player / café master)

    1400-2000 intermediate (class player) (most tournament & club players)

    2000-2200 Expert

    2200+ National Master (NM)

    2300+ FIDE Master (FM)

    2400+ International Master (IM)

    2500+ Grand Master (GM)

    2700+ Super Grand Master (Super GM)

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #14

    granitoman

    I'm stuck between 1100-1200 and yes, i think i'm betwen beginner - advanced beginner.

    Of course i'm talking about Chess.com rating, i have no played any real tournament.

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #15

    waynet

    I wish my rating would plateau. Lately it just keeps dropping :(

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #16

    chessBBQ

    There are people who exhaust their time studying and still cant break the plateau.I think it's because most  people's brains are not flexible enough.That is why kids are very good at absorbing knowledge.Their brains are still not hardwired.

    To break out to the next level you need to be adaptable to change.As a beginner those knight in the rim is dim dogmas wont cut it anymore.As an intermediate those hack attacks wont work anymore.You need to refine your positional chess.As an expert ,you need to change your thinking in the opening and the endgame.And so on and so forth.

    The more you climb the ladder,the more specific positions will become and the less likely generalizations will be helpful

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #17

    chessmaster102

    ^^^ If there is a secret to improvement its what you just said thats what helps me improve.

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #18

    RobertJack

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  • 14 months ago · Quote · #19

    I-eat-guini-pigs

    DrCheckevertim wrote:

    Robert Jack, I'd say it's more like:

    0-1000  beginner

    1000-1400 advanced beginner (strong social player / café master)

    1400-2000 intermediate (class player) (most tournament & club players)

    2000-2200 Expert

    2200+ National Master (NM)

    2300+ FIDE Master (FM)

    2400+ International Master (IM)

    2500+ Grand Master (GM)

    2700+ Super Grand Master (Super GM)

    where does 1000-1400 fit in for a 13 year old?

  • 14 months ago · Quote · #20

    chessmaster102

    ^ think he means sand bagging like how a 1500 cna stop playing for years getting to a 2000 stregth or higher and then dominate the tournament scene


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