Well!! By unsportiness, I mean...In chess.com,  whenever a player is supposed to loose a game or is position down in any game, he/she delays his move to the most and uses the maximum time he is allowed to use, for every move till he looses and even if he is to give a forced move.Not all but many players are there in this category. I may invite controversy by limelighting this fact, but its a truth. I urge all the players, to have the sportiness. As winning and loosing, are part of any game. I am waiting for your comments Eric. Cant anything be done to check this process.. ?

Well, technically an opponent is allowed to use the full amount of time but surely intentionally doing this is not very sportsman like.

 

We were thinking of developing some kind of "sportsmanship rating" where after a game you can rate the sportsmanship of the opponent during the game and then when you are considering starting a game with another player you can check out their sportsmanship rating from previous games so that you know what you are getting into. Of course there are some down sides to this such as a person purposely giving you a bad sportsmanship rating after a game despite you having good sportsmanship during the game.

Patzer24 wrote:

Well, technically an opponent is allowed to use the full amount of time but surely intentionally doing this is not very sportsman like.

 

We were thinking of developing some kind of "sportsmanship rating" where after a game you can rate the sportsmanship of the opponent during the game and then when you are considering starting a game with another player you can check out their sportsmanship rating from previous games so that you know what you are getting into. Of course there are some down sides to this such as a person purposely giving you a bad sportsmanship rating after a game despite you having good sportsmanship during the game.

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good idea that would be good and i know that some people would be sour apples and try to mess people up by purposly giving them bad ratings because they lost or just to be mean.

Yeah, but if a person gives you a bad sportsmanship rating and you feel you don't deserve it, can't there be a little "rebuttal" section, perhaps a free text box where you can state your case?  Isn't that how Ebay works?  If you get a bad rating, you are allowed to state your side, so people can read your rebuttal and make their own decisions, instead of just assuming you are a bad buyer/seller based on the (possibly unfair) rating you were given.

mercytononeZ wrote: Patzer24 wrote:

Well, technically an opponent is allowed to use the full amount of time but surely intentionally doing this is not very sportsman like.

 

We were thinking of developing some kind of "sportsmanship rating" where after a game you can rate the sportsmanship of the opponent during the game and then when you are considering starting a game with another player you can check out their sportsmanship rating from previous games so that you know what you are getting into. Of course there are some down sides to this such as a person purposely giving you a bad sportsmanship rating after a game despite you having good sportsmanship during the game.

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good idea that would be good and i know that some people would be sour apples and try to mess people up by purposly giving them bad ratings because they lost or just to be mean.

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Like what MercytoneZ and Patzer24 wrote, other people could lie about other peoples sportsmanship so people wouldn't play with people with good sportsmanship.

KnightNotHorse wrote:

Yeah, but if a person gives you a bad sportsmanship rating and you feel you don't deserve it, can't there be a little "rebuttal" section, perhaps a free text box where you can state your case?  Isn't that how Ebay works?  If you get a bad rating, you are allowed to state your side, so people can read your rebuttal and make their own decisions, instead of just assuming you are a bad buyer/seller based on the (possibly unfair) rating you were given.

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yeah but then people could still lie because a few times i had to cancel chat because the person i was playing kept talking trash and cussing me out. But after reading wat he left 4 me i have no reason to believe that he wouldn't lie and claim to be innocent. 

The sportsmanship rating would work.  All the bad sports would get a bad rating off everyone else, but the good sports would get a good rating off the other good sports.  So overall, you could see the better sports.  Sport. (For the Aussies)

I don't support this idea as it will create more bad feelings. I also think one persons idea of bad sportsmanship is different from the next persons. I sometimes take more time in a move if I am busy (having 4 kids that is easy to be) or if I need to think about how to move. I am enjoying playing online because I have the opportunity to really think about what I am doing. I have been able to improve my game and understanding of chess due to this. I have sometimes felt preasured by my  opponents  bad sportsmanship but its only one game not like I have to deal with them again. The fact is that a bad reputation is difficult to shake and word of mouth is far more reliable than a "rating". Should I be offensive I would appreciate kind advice rather than a scarlet letter.

To tabaxi... Ur point is not justified.. I am speaking of the games, where one needs to give a force move and he reamins online, without giving the move.

I'm really in favor of this idea. I don't believe it is as prone to abuse as some of the other members are suggesting - by the law of averages, the unjustified bad sport ratings would be overwhelmed by the reality of the situation... that is to say that in after a hundred games, your rating would be very close to true. I don't know - it's certainly not a necessity... and I would hate for someone to be summarily "kicked off the site" by a group of friends ganging up on them, making them feel unwelcome, like a lynch mob or something. BUT it does add some accountability... it holds people accountable if they're deliberately being an ass to everyone in each game they participate in. Maybe I'm just in favor of the system because I know I go out of my way to ensure that my opponent is also having a good time; I invest in chatting, enjoy talking about life/chess, and simply conduct myself with courtesy, so I know that I could only benefit if such a rating system were implemented. I think there would have to be more specifications of what this "system" would really entail, because as is we're all speculating with a very vague notion of what it is we're really talking about. Another, perhaps better way of going about it is the already proposed trophy system - rather than creating bad blood with negative social ratings, a person could kindof tell the "sportsmanship" of a person by trophies they've accrued! - sortof a look to the positive thing. Like, "Oh look, so and so has 10 Sportsmanship Trophies, I bet they're courteous..." And to prevent the spamming of trophies, I'd suggest a limit on certain ones... so I could only give my friends one Sportsmanship trophy each.

I dunno guys, just brainstorming out loud. But I have to say - one thing I love about this community is that we're all involved in the discussion about how to improve it, and how open the staff is to listening to suggestions. 

I support this idea

I say tolerate the 3 day move if you have to. If you don't want to put up with it ask someone if they would like to play 1 move / 24 hrs game etc. I feel this system will attempt to make things better but will also make things more complicated. People don't like being judged just like they don't like losing the game. Perhaps a simple 1-5 star rating system prompt after game completion would work, but I'm a fan of communication. I'm not afraid to tell my opponent that I feel they only started taking their time once they got behind in the game. If I get a negative response, I probably wont play them again. If my opponent doesn't want to resign while in dire straits I often suggest we start another game :)
bah just my 2c

To panzer24!! Well The sportmanship rating sounds good.. But the same problem arises there. The Bad guys will be Bad guys. Cant a software sort of thing be installed to check this sportmanship rating.. I am speaking more of a fiction, but just curious. Actually I dont play more than 8-10 games at a time. Now, when I get to a + position, people mostly cease moving.

 To lithium11, No, Its not possible.. I mean.. Just playing 1 day per move is also problematic sometime, specially for people of our region. Many people may not have internet connections at their home. Again, at many places, the internet connectivity is not consistant.

Keep it positive and figure out how the Trophy system can work to the same advantages.

Rael wrote: Keep it positive and figure out how the Trophy system can work to the same advantages.

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wat r u talkin bout?

 

mercytononeZ wrote: Rael wrote: Keep it positive and figure out how the Trophy system can work to the same advantages.

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wat r u talkin bout?

 

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 One of the features the staff is thinking of implementing involves us being able to "gift" trophies to one another... for different things like, "Good game" or "Excellent play"... I imagine they'd be displayed on your profile page or something. You should search it. It's still in the nascent stages... just an idea they're tossing around (one of their thousands).

So wat I wuz talkin bout... hahaha, sorry, um, what I was talking about was rather than implementing a negative rating system whereby people are "punished"... which can lead to a hostile atmosphere and hurt feelings... if the trophy system was properly implemented you could get all of the benefits from the sportsmanship rating system that we're discussing in this thread with none of the negatives.

Said more succinctly, like I said above...  Keep it positive and figure out how the Trophy system can work to the same advantages.

Does that answer your question, Mercy?...to no one? 

How about if someone is a bad sport you just not play them again.  There are 13000 plus members, find people you enjoy playing with and keep challenging each other.

Cry me a river, make it long, deep and wide.  We keep covering the same ground.  If you make a contract for 3 days, that doesn't mean 1 day most of the time and when people start taking their full 3 days I want to whine about it to Erick maybe we will come with a sportsman evaluation indicator that states this person took their full 3 days sometimes.  It is time to grow up and be an adult.

Yeah I would encourage you to not police the site any more than you need to. Unsportsmanlike or not, any players has the right to use the amount of time given to them per move. While it may be frustrating, what exactly do you want chess.com to do???

A sportsmanship rating seems really excessive and unneccessary, unless there are rude or obscene comments, or extreme harrassment, made during the game. In that case, a reporting system should be in place - but following the rules which both opponents agreed to, even if it annoys you, has to be acceptable. If a move per three days is too slow for you and you EXPECT your opponent to move every day, then change the timeframe when you start new games!