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I think anyone who thinks women wouldn't enjoy chess the way men do have a simplistic and sexist view of women.
Is there anything wrong with that?
Is there anything wrong with that?
My sister,who is much more intelligent than me, taught me chess and I beat her in our second game. That was about 50 years ago and she hasn't played since! Chess is really supposed to be all about analysis and problem solving rather than winning but in truth..'it's about winning'!! lol
Why anyone would like chess is beyond me. I think it is best suited for manic-depressives.
You win: that's good! You lose: That's bad! No it isn't! Yes it is!
I disagree with Monster.
In terms of ability, men and women have no difference when it comes to chess. Chess is not a physical sport. In chess, small guys don't lose to bigger guys. Physical size does not matter. So those arguments about waist size, etc. are not relevant. There is no such thing as male brain or female brain. It's stupid.
The reason why chess is male-dominated is because of the way the society wants us to behave. Men are expected to be tough, and they are raised in that manner. There is a social pressure on boys as they grow up not to cry or to show any kind of weakness whenever they have problems. Girls on the other hand are expected to act like girls. Any boyish activity may result in the girl being looked down or outcast by their circle of friends, etc. So there is a pressure to conform to the society's ideal values.
Chess is a war game. By definition, it is a boy's game. That's why it doesn't get played by many girls. Parents are more likely to teach their sons how to play chess than they do with their daughters. It's a product of society. It has nothing to do with woman's ability to play chess.
Male brain and female brain is actually scientific fact, it's not a gender stereotype rather a scientific description it's a well known descriptor look it up on google, hence a male brain can be housed in a woman and a female brain in a man. They use this term to descibe the type of brain that uses two hemispheres or single sided.
I just read that "There are both more geniouses and more idiots among men." I don't know if there is any truth to it though.
I'm pretty sure it is true that men and women have different mental abilities. It may be true that men do have natural abilities that make us better at chess than women in general, and women are better than us at other things.
Again....I thought the topic was ...Do We Enjoy Playing Chess? not if men have "natural abilities" to be better at chess (laughing here)
I believe it depends on what human you are.
For example, if you are a person that likes gymnastics.That is your opinion.If you are someone who likes chess.That is your opinion
In general I guess it is true but if you are a girl who likes to play chess for you it is not true.I believe that we are the people that we are and so that is our talent.
I have played females. It seemed to me we both enjoyed the game. I am not sure gender matters at all. If you like chess, you like chess.
The 2 things are linked.People are drawn to and enjoy what theyre good at, things that give them a sense of power.If I have a puny tiny brain that cant calculate more than 3 moves ahead (like 80% of all people) I will watch some sport and drink beer. Why do you think chess is not popular?The interesting thing about Polgar is she got one of the best chess educations in the world. Her 2 other sisters got the exact same education, but they must have been more "female brain" (Susan is promoting chess, and a very successful blogger) as a woman her brain is more designed to be with people, talk to them, rather than the calculation in solitude and brutal competition. Judit also left serious competition and doesnt seem to play these days. You could say: now that the dads (male) influence has decreased, they are back to their "natural mode" and none of them play serious chess.
90% of chess players are men90% of IT workers are men90% of university professors ( not including the soft subjects which shouldnt be in university anyway) are men100% of childbirth is done by women
People do things they are good at , that they will succeed at.
OBVIOUSLY something is going on here people. Lets stop denying reality.
Look at our brains. Our brains control the release of hormones into our body, which makes our bodies into what they are. Compare the male and female body. Opposite.Where we have bumps they dont and vice versa. Womens shoulders are small and waists are big, ours are vice versa. We have sharper anglular features they have smooth rounder ones. And so on.
So the brain thats evolve over millions of years, and controls essentially everything that goes on in the human body, if this organ dispenses hormones so differently in male/female would it be a huge revelation that many other elements of the brain between the sexes are also different?
Evidence for this is clear as day… look at the roles women take on as jobs versus men. Look at how women behave together in groups compared to men.
All this evidence we are surrounded by, and then we look at chess as well which is hugely male dominated and we ignore all the things above Ive mentioned and say women are oppressed and men intimidate them so thats why they dont compete. Seriously?
Yes Polgar and Yifan are 2 very rare exceptions, they have more male type brains than average women, but they cant compete with the top men, just as in the olympics women cant beat the men either. No one likes to lose, espesically when its against the opposite sex, thats why women dont play chess.
So women are only good at making babies, then?
Which is just a biological function.
To let you know, the only reason men and women are anatomically dissimilar is because of the release of estrogen vs testosterone. That is the reason behind a male's sharper features, difference in athletic ability/muscle mass, a small part of the reason women are able to bear children (this of course is mostly because they have two x chromosomes), and the reason for every other physical difference you listed in your post. It may even be apart of the reason women shy away from chess and IT positions, but it has no correlation with intellectual intelligence. This was one of the most sexist posts I have ever read, partially because you tried to give a pseudo-scientific reason behind a woman's inferiority to men. It is strange that something so stupid would be on a chess site. I am a male by the way.
It is strange that something so stupid would be on a chess site.
No, no it isn't.
It is true that men have been telling women they're mentally inferior for centuries, and centuries. A lot of women seem to believe it too.
Interesting. I take it then you have never let a child win a game to encourage them? And maybe she hasnt played you since as she didnt want to disillusion you...And one of the best games (on a personal level) I have played was one I didn't win. Sometimes its just about holding off a far better player for a while, or having a crowd of people watch your game, or maybe even what you hope to learn just by playing.
Nope,she just hated losing especially to me.The third game I played was against her boy friend who was a university chess player 10 years my senior...I beat him in about 10 moves!
She just hated the thought of me being better than her at anything. She won't even accept that I truely love Shakespeare because she can't grasp it!
Do women enjoy chess?
1) Having seen When Harry met Sally, I am sure they can fake enjoying chess if they have to, so who can tell?
2) Once you meet one you can ask them. Although see point 1, I suspect they may lie.
3) A better question is "does chess enjoy women?" It at least opens up the possibility that chess is a conscious thing that studies us as much as we study it, potentially more interesting to think about. The question as originally posed invites no solid thought but spirals rapidly into other debates, such as the above ones regarding mens ability to make babies. Sigh.
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