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theoreticalboy
It is strange that something so stupid would be on a chess site.
No, no it isn't.
Conflagration_Planet
To let you know, the only reason men and women are anatomically dissimilar is because of the release of estrogen vs testosterone. That is the reason behind a male's sharper features, difference in athletic ability/muscle mass, a small part of the reason women are able to bear children (this of course is mostly because they have two x chromosomes), and the reason for every other physical difference you listed in your post. It may even be apart of the reason women shy away from chess and IT positions, but it has no correlation with intellectual intelligence. This was one of the most sexist posts I have ever read, partially because you tried to give a pseudo-scientific reason behind a woman's inferiority to men. It is strange that something so stupid would be on a chess site. I am a male by the way.
It is true that men have been telling women they're mentally inferior for centuries, and centuries. A lot of women seem to believe it too.
Here_Is_Plenty
My sister,who is much more intelligent than me, taught me chess and I beat her in our second game. That was about 50 years ago and she hasn't played since! Chess is really supposed to be all about analysis and problem solving rather than winning but in truth..'it's about winning'!! lol
Interesting. I take it then you have never let a child win a game to encourage them? And maybe she hasnt played you since as she didnt want to disillusion you...And one of the best games (on a personal level) I have played was one I didn't win. Sometimes its just about holding off a far better player for a while, or having a crowd of people watch your game, or maybe even what you hope to learn just by playing.
Iknowthemoves
Nope,she just hated losing especially to me.The third game I played was against her boy friend who was a university chess player 10 years my senior...I beat him in about 10 moves!
She just hated the thought of me being better than her at anything. She won't even accept that I truely love Shakespeare because she can't grasp it!
Do women enjoy chess?
1) Having seen When Harry met Sally, I am sure they can fake enjoying chess if they have to, so who can tell?
2) Once you meet one you can ask them. Although see point 1, I suspect they may lie.
3) A better question is "does chess enjoy women?" It at least opens up the possibility that chess is a conscious thing that studies us as much as we study it, potentially more interesting to think about. The question as originally posed invites no solid thought but spirals rapidly into other debates, such as the above ones regarding mens ability to make babies. Sigh.
chess_kebabs
And men never lie do they? What about the thousands of chess.com MALE members that have been banned here for cheating? Weren't they lying to us pretending to be playing honest clean games?
And we all know that the X chromosome stands for X-factor.
Chess-ke-babes, I think you may have missed the not-so-subtle attempt at humour there. The OP's question is what I was poking fun at, same as in a much earlier post when I replied "More than they like stupid questions".
Bottom line is yes women do enjoy playing chess just as much as men. Obviously some men enjoy it more than some women and some women enjoy it more than some men. And there are thousands of great female chess players, not just the top few women Grandmasters, who could beat the asses of most of the guys here.
oops, sorry.
But I do make a good point about male cheaters in chess and in many sports. But I know some women cheat also. Just seems like it's mainly men we hear about, especially in the physical sports.
Ok, I know am going off on a tangent here but might as well when what's left to discuss about women enjoying chess. We OBVIOUSLY do or we wouldn't play it.
Yeah but you dont hear of too many men taking female hormones to compete at the olympics. I'm just saying...
I always wondered about John McEnroe if he did take estrogen shots...
batgirl
For the record, concerning the uninformed comment about Judit's sisters having a 'female' (inferior?) brain compared to her 'male' (superior?) brain:Judit Polgar, whose peak rating of 2735 makes her objectively the strongest female player in history, claimed several times that of the 3, Zsofia was really the strongest. Zsofia, who retired from chess fairly young had a peak rating of 2540 and, at age 14, scored 8.5/9 at the 'Magistrale di Roma' in 1989, defeating GMs Palatnik, Chernin, Suba, and Razuvaev and drawing with GM Dolmatovin the process although her elo was only about 2300 at the time - her performance rating was over 2900. Zsusza, whose peak rating is 2633, is an incredible player. She was the first woman to earn a GM title by earning the norm and rating requirements. She qualified to participate in the World Championship cycle in 1986, but was ultimately barred because she was a woman. That same year, all women players, because at that time almost all women limited themselves to women tournaments, were given a 100 pt. elo boost. The only women denied this boost was Susan Polgar because she played in open tournaments. In 1993, Zsusza gave up open tournaments to play in women tournaments. Although, after giving up the Women's World Championship, she concentrated on teaching, coaching and promoting, she won the US Open Blitz Championship in 2003, 2005 and 2006 and set some records in playing a 326 board simul in Florida with a 96.93 % win ratio.
While Judit is indeed objectively stronger, she didn't have the same uphill fight as her pioneering older sister nor the self-limited professional career of her younger sister. Subjectively, the distance between the three ladies seems slim.
Additionally, the same post claimed that Judit doesn't seem currently active when in fact she has been quite active, perhaps not to the degree of he pre-childrearing day, since 2010 and performing quite well.
waffllemaster
Chess is a man's game, therefore "male brains" are better at chess (or vice versa) certainly seems like circular reasoning to me.
Let's see near equal representation and decide then. It may turn out the "female brain" tends to be better at chess.
kaspy2011
Chess is a human beings game rather tahn male sport or non-female sport. Just that in our society boys are more encouraged to play chess than girls. So that is the first main reason why there are few women players out here. Then in some parts of the world, a woman's duty is take care of children and run day yo day family activities. Whil their male counterparts might have nore time to do leisurely activities. Even though typical male and female brain are wired differently it doesnt prevent either of them to play chess. About 50% is about giving them motivation and encouragement to play chess. I always believed chess is the only equal sport for both sexes!
Monster_with_no_Name
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g032MPrSjFA
corrijean
As usual, excellent post, Batgirl.
Nerves
"Thank you, darling, for learning to play chess. It is an absolute necessity for any well organized family." - (in a letter to his wife) - Alexander Pushkin
In 1804 Dolley Madison, wife of James Madison (at this time, Secretary of State to Jefferson) , while visiting Lucy Knox, the wife of Washington's Major General, Henry Knox, in Boston, wrote to her sister Anna Cutts: "We have very pleasant lodgings, and for my companion, the famous Madame Knox, who although very haughty, I find pleasant and sensible. Chess is now her mania which she plays extremely well, only too often for my fancy, who am not of late so partial to it."
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